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[Other Sport] Simone Biles







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Interesting responses on this thread. I'm going to play devil's advocate (not to be an arse but out of genuine curiosity for the answer) and ask what would people's responses be to, let's say Lewis Dunk, pulling out of the FA Cup Final 20 minutes in after a poor start for the Albion, to protect his mental health? Or if Harry Kane had done so in the Euro 2020 final for England? Would we be as quick to praise them (especially in the case of defeat) for putting their mental health above all else? Pundits regularly talk about teams having to rely on their big players to step up and be counted in the high pressure moments. Where would pulling out midway through a sporting event fit within that mantra?
 


SAC

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Interesting responses on this thread. I'm going to play devil's advocate (not to be an arse but out of genuine curiosity for the answer) and ask what would people's responses be to, let's say Lewis Dunk, pulling out of the FA Cup Final 20 minutes in after a poor start for the Albion, to protect his mental health? Or if Harry Kane had done so in the Euro 2020 final for England? Would we be as quick to praise them (especially in the case of defeat) for putting their mental health above all else? Pundits regularly talk about teams having to rely on their big players to step up and be counted in the high pressure moments. Where would pulling out midway through a sporting event fit within that mantra?

I would hazard to guess that Dunk would get overwhelming support on here but Kane would be vilified.
 


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The ace up the sleeve?

A couple of real tossers on this thread and you are one of them :shrug:

Thanks for the uncalled for name-calling. Just a differing point of view.

Should we all agree then???

'Nobody knows... except that I think I do'


Not sure if you've done any background reading, but if you have you'll understand that whie we may not 'know', there's not exactly any shortage of reasons to believe what she says. Not least the fact that it would have been far far easier (avoiding the attention seeking comments and sneers from the likes of you and Piers Morgan) to have blamed her lack of form on something else.

But in your mind it's her being a brat

Righto

Maybe, but would she really want to say because of her lack of preparation she's not on her A-game. I'm not sure the person left behind in the states would like to hear that one. As she effectively throws away someone elses dream.

I hadn't even known Morgan was copying my stance on this one, what a cheeky b**ger.

[MENTION=6886]Bozza[/MENTION] - we need the old 'thumbs down' back.......

Why is that Dazza, to show aggression towards posters with differing opinions, it would be very negative and could even cause mental health issues, as we are on the subject.

To be honest, we just need vile old posters to bugger off. They are relentless in their idiocy and nastiness. There will be a few more along in a minute.

Nastiness is generally spread by a dozen or so name-callers, with multiply accounts. Would you condone that then???

I know, it's almost as surprising as certain NSC regulars cropping up in this thread to have a go at the same successful, talented, young black woman.

WTF has colour got to do with it? You never ever pick out anyone who is white that I might dislike, like Corbyn, Starmer, Joey Barton and so on. Why on earth do you see colour first every time?

Brat-ism? Please could you expand on that?

Well it's those types who are used to winning and went something goes wrong they fake it. In this instance we don't know no one does know.

I have even seen the kids at sports day fake a fall when coming out of the traps late and they know they can't win..........................it's an all or nothing mentality and probably why they are such high achievers. That doesn't mean I have to respect someone for faking it, or potentially faking it.
 


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Why is that Dazza, to show aggression towards posters with differing opinions, it would be very negative and could even cause mental health issues, as we are on the subject.

Thumbs Down = aggression :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Thumbs Down would be simply to save me typing 'I disagree with your post' - which is precisely what you're suggesting (a difference of view)
 




Thunder Bolt

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Interesting responses on this thread. I'm going to play devil's advocate (not to be an arse but out of genuine curiosity for the answer) and ask what would people's responses be to, let's say Lewis Dunk, pulling out of the FA Cup Final 20 minutes in after a poor start for the Albion, to protect his mental health? Or if Harry Kane had done so in the Euro 2020 final for England? Would we be as quick to praise them (especially in the case of defeat) for putting their mental health above all else? Pundits regularly talk about teams having to rely on their big players to step up and be counted in the high pressure moments. Where would pulling out midway through a sporting event fit within that mantra?

Footballers rarely die or get paralysed in games whereas gymnasts have broken necks due to a very slight slip on the bar or horse.
Poor analogy.
 


Deportivo Seagull

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Thanks for the uncalled for name-calling. Just a differing point of view.
it.

You are a bit needy aren’t you.
You basically called her a ‘brat’ but when someone called you a ‘tosser’ you suddenly get all offended. A classic case of being happy to dish it out but not being able to take. Pathetic.


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dazzer6666

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Interesting responses on this thread. I'm going to play devil's advocate (not to be an arse but out of genuine curiosity for the answer) and ask what would people's responses be to, let's say Lewis Dunk, pulling out of the FA Cup Final 20 minutes in after a poor start for the Albion, to protect his mental health? Or if Harry Kane had done so in the Euro 2020 final for England? Would we be as quick to praise them (especially in the case of defeat) for putting their mental health above all else? Pundits regularly talk about teams having to rely on their big players to step up and be counted in the high pressure moments. Where would pulling out midway through a sporting event fit within that mantra?

Fair question to ask....didn't we possibly have this with Maupay after he missed a penalty ? Didn't seem to be a physical injury and I can't recall any reports of one post-match.

I've had a v close family member take their own life, another that had very serious MH issues (not going into detail on here) and had to deal with a number of situations at work (including the suicide - through clinical depression - of a former boss who became a pal). Clearly none of these are in a sporting context, but an individual's profession has no real relevance to propensity to suffer from MH issues - Dunk, Kane or anyone else would get my 100% support.

Extending your question, I wonder if Morgan would have called out Kane in the same way he's done so to Biles ?
 




Thunder Bolt

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Thanks for the uncalled for name-calling. Just a differing point of view.

Should we all agree then???



Maybe, but would she really want to say because of her lack of preparation she's not on her A-game. I'm not sure the person left behind in the states would like to hear that one. As she effectively throws away someone elses dream.

I hadn't even known Morgan was copying my stance on this one, what a cheeky b**ger.

Give it a rest Mouldy.

If you knew anything about the Olympics, there was a reserve in Tokyo, who took Biles place in the team competition, so nobody’s dream was thrown away. I watched it.

I know you like to play forum games by being an ‘alternative’ voice, even telling me not to take you seriously, but this post it just ignorance.
Please note, I am not name calling, but pointing out your post is inaccurate.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Why is that Dazza, to show aggression towards posters with differing opinions, it would be very negative and could even cause mental health issues, as we are on the subject.
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Aggression? It’s a simple disagree. How can you infer anything more from it? This does shine a little light on how your mind works though.
 




GT49er

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Thumbs Down = aggression :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Thumbs Down would be simply to save me typing 'I disagree with your post' - which is precisely what you're suggesting (a difference of view)
Personally I think this board has become a much nicer place since Bozza removed the thumbs down option - and I hope it never comes back. It could get really unpleasant at times - a right old witch hunt; we're better off without it.

There's really no problem with posting that you disagree, is there.
 


dazzer6666

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Personally I think this board has become a much nicer place since Bozza removed the thumbs down option - and I hope it never comes back. It could get really unpleasant aat times - a right old witch hunt; we're better off without it.

There's really no problem with posting that you disagree, is there.

Rather than a bland 'I disagree with your post', I thought I'd lighten it a bit by saying I'd like a thumbs down - expressing my disagreement, no ? Instead of a number against a thumb (largely ignored by most I would think), Mouldy gets the opportunity to quote and rant at a load of comments instead. Yes, much more pleasant :moo:
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

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[MENTION=6886]Bozza[/MENTION] - we need the old 'thumbs down' back.......

No. Boot the racist old fools off NSC. They bring nothing to the table. I have both these pathetic wankers on ignore but I can see from the replies they are still interfering with my day and my enjoyment of NSC with their racism.
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

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Rather than a bland 'I disagree with your post', I thought I'd lighten it a bit by saying I'd like a thumbs down - expressing my disagreement, no ? Instead of a number against a thumb (largely ignored by most I would think), Mouldy gets the opportunity to quote and rant at a load of comments instead. Yes, much more pleasant :moo:

Don't you know how bullies work? There are around ten posters whose primary role on NSC is to introduce racist and related tropes. With the thumbs down button they would all be at it, thumbs downing the people who call them out. I know several decent posters who are already so demoralised by the relentless tide of cretinous trash from these people, including covid denial, that one has recently quit NSC and others are close. You are advocating the US solution to ****wittery here - give everyone a gun. No thanks.
 


Easy 10

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Bile could of course just not be on her A-game due to lack of respect to her competitors around her as she has been so much on top of the world and realised she was in for a kicking???

I just hope it isn't a form of brat-ism.


No one will truly know, only her, let's home she finds top gear again, whether it be mentally or physically, or more and likely both.

Given the immense pressure and expectation this young woman has been under from her fans, her country, her team, her sponsors, the media and (inevitably) the social media trolls ever since she was propelled to superstardom by her sheer talent, dedication and brilliance - its odd that your immediate default stance when she breaks down under that pressure is that "she's lying, she's just making up excuses".

She's proved herself at least 30-odd times over already in her phenomenal career, she literally has nothing left to prove. The fact that she's chosen to reveal her mental health as being an issue at these Games (as opposed to the FAR easier and mundane option of simply making up an injury), is a brave admission.

But I'm sadly unsurprised to see some people viewing it as something else entirely.
 


dazzer6666

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Don't you know how bullies work? There are around ten posters whose primary role on NSC is to introduce racist and related tropes. With the thumbs down button they would all be at it, thumbs downing the people who call them out. I know several decent posters who are already so demoralised by the relentless tide of cretinous trash from these people, including covid denial, that one has recently quit NSC and others are close. You are advocating the US solution to ****wittery here - give everyone a gun. No thanks.

Oh FFS can you read #53 again ? I didn't MEAN bring back thumbs down.
 


hart's shirt

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Simone Biles v Some man's bile?

There's only ever going to be one winner here.
 




Greg Bobkin

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Interesting responses on this thread. I'm going to play devil's advocate (not to be an arse but out of genuine curiosity for the answer) and ask what would people's responses be to, let's say Lewis Dunk, pulling out of the FA Cup Final 20 minutes in after a poor start for the Albion, to protect his mental health? Or if Harry Kane had done so in the Euro 2020 final for England? Would we be as quick to praise them (especially in the case of defeat) for putting their mental health above all else? Pundits regularly talk about teams having to rely on their big players to step up and be counted in the high pressure moments. Where would pulling out midway through a sporting event fit within that mantra?

Personally yes, because I'm not an empathy-lacking ********. I would have sympathy with anyone suffering a mental or physical issue that affects how they live their lives. I mean, why wouldn't you?

Fair question to ask....didn't we possibly have this with Maupay after he missed a penalty ? Didn't seem to be a physical injury and I can't recall any reports of one post-match.

I've had a v close family member take their own life, another that had very serious MH issues (not going into detail on here) and had to deal with a number of situations at work (including the suicide - through clinical depression - of a former boss who became a pal). Clearly none of these are in a sporting context, but an individual's profession has no real relevance to propensity to suffer from MH issues - Dunk, Kane or anyone else would get my 100% support.

Extending your question, I wonder if Morgan would have called out Kane in the same way he's done so to Biles ?

Given his support to Gazza in the past, I'm guessing not.
 


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Edit: It seems I may have misread the thread title.
 


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