[Other Sport] Simone Biles

[Goldstone1976]

Somebody will be along shortly playing the ictim card.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

Thumbs Down = aggression

Thumbs Down would be simply to save me typing 'I disagree with your post' - which is precisely what you're suggesting (a difference of view)

I get that, but the sheep mentality means that everyone who has a lot of political hate, will just abuse it and not debate the situation. It could end up stale because of that, If people really don't want to hear opposing viewpoints and reasons behind them, this would be one hell of a boring place.
The real issue is too many on here see colour and assuming it's all related, quite frankly they are the worse type of people, as they are exactly the ones who stir up and separate people.

I could name them on here...........but I won't.

You are a bit needy aren’t you.
You basically called her a ‘brat’ but when someone called you a ‘tosser’ you suddenly get all offended. A classic case of being happy to dish it out but not being able to take. Pathetic.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Totally different, she doesn't read NSC, does she I am not the type to aim hurtful things directly at her via Twitter etc. You really have me wrong I am afraid.

I really have not affected her life at all and when I do, call me a hypocrite.

Give it a rest Mouldy.

If you knew anything about the Olympics, there was a reserve in Tokyo, who took Biles place in the team competition, so nobody’s dream was thrown away. I watched it.

I know you like to play forum games by being an ‘alternative’ voice, even telling me not to take you seriously, but this post it just ignorance.
Please note, I am not name calling, but pointing out your post is inaccurate.

Thank you for your immaculate detail ms Starmer I did know that, I was of course referring to another reserve who was unable to take the trip and gather invaluable experience.

Don't worry, I have said my piece whether you agree or not please note I DO NOT take in a person colour before criticising someone we are all equal.

I have said my piece and will be on my way.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Thank you for your immaculate detail ms Starmer:wink: I did know that I was of course referring to another reserve who was unable to take the trip and gather invaluable experience.

Chinny reckon

 

[maltaseagull]

No. Boot the racist old fools off NSC. They bring nothing to the table. I have both these pathetic wankers on ignore but I can see from the replies they are still interfering with my day and my enjoyment of NSC with their racism.

Ahhh but are they affecting your mental health?

Then you would really have a strong case

 

[Deleted member 2719]

Ahhh but are they affecting your mental health?

Then you would really have a strong case

He affects mine.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Oh FFS can you read #53 again ? I didn't MEAN bring back thumbs down.

Apologies!

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Ahhh but are they affecting your mental health?

Then you would really have a strong case

Arguably they do. It is an interesting point. However I wouldn't feel inclined to pursue the matter. If NSC affects me, with my mental make up, like twitter affects others, I can always do what is recommended in the wider context - if you aren't enjoying social media because the body of it has become infiltrated by racists and other nutters, just leave. I put the plums on ignore and can get by, with the football, comedy and kindness far exceeding my dismay at the occasional shit from the usual suspects that crosses my horizon

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Somebody will be along shortly playing the ictim card.

Christ. I have only just worked out how to use Google Pay and now you bring me this?

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Oh FFS can you read #53 again ? I didn't MEAN bring back thumbs down.

As one of my favourite posters I don't know what posessed me, missing you moo

 

[Jolly Red Giant]

Interesting responses on this thread. I'm going to play devil's advocate (not to be an arse but out of genuine curiosity for the answer) and ask what would people's responses be to, let's say Lewis Dunk, pulling out of the FA Cup Final 20 minutes in after a poor start for the Albion, to protect his mental health? Or if Harry Kane had done so in the Euro 2020 final for England? Would we be as quick to praise them (especially in the case of defeat) for putting their mental health above all else? Pundits regularly talk about teams having to rely on their big players to step up and be counted in the high pressure moments. Where would pulling out midway through a sporting event fit within that mantra?

As has been pointed out - you are not comparing like with like. A footballer having a poor game has ten players around them to pick up the slack - a gymnast is on an island and faces the prospect of serious injury every time they take on an apparatus. Biles has been vilified in the US media since she helped expose the abuse taking place of young athletes. Despite this she was completing routines that the judges weren't even able to mark because they had never even been attempted before. When you go into competition as a gymnast you have to have a singular focus on what you are doing and you have to have supreme confidence in your ability to complete your routine. Any doubt and you are leaving yourself open to the prospect of serious injury. Biles lost trust in her ability.

It should also be noted that she withdrew from the competition in order not to undermine the ability of her teammates to compete - and even if Biles competed to the peak of her ability it is still likely that the Russians would have won the gold - the Russians were that good during the competition - they won by 3.5 points and even Simone Biles was unlikely to have been able to make up the gap. Her specialties are Vault and Floor and she would have had to increase the USA score by 1.75 in each because it is unlikely she would have improved on the US score in bars and beam.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

I get that, but the sheep mentality means that everyone who has a lot of political hate, will just abuse it and not debate the situation. It could end up stale because of that, If people really don't want to hear opposing viewpoints and reasons behind them, this would be one hell of a boring place.
The real issue is too many on here see colour and assuming it's all related, quite frankly they are the worse type of people, as they are exactly the ones who stir up and separate people.

I could name them on here...........but I won't.



Totally different, she doesn't read NSC, does she I am not the type to aim hurtful things directly at her via Twitter etc. You really have me wrong I am afraid.

I really have not affected her life at all and when I do, call me a hypocrite.




Thank you for your immaculate detail ms Starmer I did know that, I was of course referring to another reserve who was unable to take the trip and gather invaluable experience.

Don't worry, I have said my piece whether you agree or not please note I DO NOT take in a person colour before criticising someone we are all equal.

I have said my piece and will be on my way.

No I don’t have you wrong at all ……


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Interesting responses on this thread. I'm going to play devil's advocate (not to be an arse but out of genuine curiosity for the answer) and ask what would people's responses be to, let's say Lewis Dunk, pulling out of the FA Cup Final 20 minutes in after a poor start for the Albion, to protect his mental health? Or if Harry Kane had done so in the Euro 2020 final for England? Would we be as quick to praise them (especially in the case of defeat) for putting their mental health above all else? Pundits regularly talk about teams having to rely on their big players to step up and be counted in the high pressure moments. Where would pulling out midway through a sporting event fit within that mantra?

I think you have conflated mental health with mood here. It is so easy to say 'how can they have depression when they have all that money and totty?' or 'he's lost his bottle' and going back ten years 'he should man up'.

I think you realise yourself we (I mean the standard setters, not the das reichs) have moved on from all that, hence the wistful tone of your question.

 

[dazzer6666]

...

 

[dazzer6666]

As one of my favourite posters I don't know what posessed me, missing you moo

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Thank you for your immaculate detail ms Starmer I did know that, I was of course referring to another reserve who was unable to take the trip and gather invaluable experience.

Don't worry, I have said my piece whether you agree or not please note I DO NOT take in a person colour before criticising someone we are all equal.

I have said my piece and will be on my way.

Ms Starmer

Yes, I was well thought of, before I retired, for my attention to detail, so I’ll take that as a compliment, comparing me to the best QC in the CPS.

Of course, some people might say you were name calling, but I couldn’t possibly say that!

 

[Guinness Boy]

He affects mine.

Then you should stay off NSC until you feel better


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Thanks for the uncalled for name-calling. Just a differing point of view.

Should we all agree then



Maybe, but would she really want to say because of her lack of preparation she's not on her A-game. I'm not sure the person left behind in the states would like to hear that one. As she effectively throws away someone elses dream.

I hadn't even known Morgan was copying my stance on this one, what a cheeky b**ger.



Why is that Dazza, to show aggression towards posters with differing opinions, it would be very negative and could even cause mental health issues, as we are on the subject.



Nastiness is generally spread by a dozen or so name-callers, with multiply accounts. Would you condone that then



WTF has colour got to do with it? You never ever pick out anyone who is white that I might dislike, like Corbyn, Starmer, Joey Barton and so on. Why on earth do you see colour first every time?



Well it's those types who are used to winning and went something goes wrong they fake it. In this instance we don't know no one does know.

I have even seen the kids at sports day fake a fall when coming out of the traps late and they know they can't win..........................it's an all or nothing mentality and probably why they are such high achievers. That doesn't mean I have to respect someone for faking it, or potentially faking it.

You're dealing with the woke virtue signalling brigade and what they say goes ,don't be such a naughty boy

Regards
DF

 

[Happy Exile]

Interesting responses on this thread. I'm going to play devil's advocate (not to be an arse but out of genuine curiosity for the answer) and ask what would people's responses be to, let's say Lewis Dunk, pulling out of the FA Cup Final 20 minutes in after a poor start for the Albion, to protect his mental health? Or if Harry Kane had done so in the Euro 2020 final for England? Would we be as quick to praise them (especially in the case of defeat) for putting their mental health above all else? Pundits regularly talk about teams having to rely on their big players to step up and be counted in the high pressure moments. Where would pulling out midway through a sporting event fit within that mantra?

I think it'd be as polarising as everything else. The rational, compassionate people capable of empathy and thought beyond themselves would sympathise and wish them well and possibly even reflect on how their own behaviour might contribute. These people mostly don't feel much need to make a song and dance of it beyond perhaps praising their courage because it is praiseworthy, and if this happened those footballers should be encouraged because it makes us all better and society better: we all go up on a rising tide.

Some people it won't affect at all, and there'll be a minority of people who will be controversial for the sake of it or so bitter and incapable of imagining an experience beyond their tiny world-view that they can't accept it as anything other than an excuse/weakness/fabrication. They'll decide it's an indication the world is falling apart, which it kind of is for them because their out-dated, harmful world view is being dismantled by people - mostly young, often not white, and generally successful - speaking out. This outraged archaic minority feel validated though by shouting into the void and thinking people having to hear them equates to having influence. It probably goes back to how they were treated when they were children and they've never quite moved on. They make a lot of noise online to compensate for their lack of impact in the real world, but as has been shown time and again its a fading, failing demographic that's being replaced by a much more inclusive and caring one.

Let them shout as far as I'm concerned. Not only is free speech good, it also shows how far society has moved on from them. I wonder though, were they so bothered when the boss of Lloyds Bank went off for sick because of mental health, or when Norway's prime minister did? Or is a young, black, female athlete held to a different standard?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Let them shout as far as I'm concerned. Not only is free speech good, it also shows how far society has moved on from them. I wonder though, were they so bothered when the boss of Lloyds Bank went off for sick because of mental health, or when Norway's prime minister did? Or is a young, black, female athlete held to a different standard?

Strange comparisons.
I was watching the gymnastics, live on television, when Biles stood down. She had already attempted one apparatus, so it was very well known

Where am I supposed to have heard about the boss of Lloyds bank or Norway’s prime minister?

All people suffering with mental health problems should receive help, so why question what people know or even raise the description of a young black female athlete, as if that should make any difference?

 

[Shooting Star]

I think you have conflated mental health with mood here. It is so easy to say 'how can they have depression when they have all that money and totty?' or 'he's lost his bottle' and going back ten years 'he should man up'.

I think you realise yourself we (I mean the standard setters, not the das reichs) have moved on from all that, hence the wistful tone of your question.

If my post came across as wistful then none of it was intentional! To the contrary really as pundits still regularly make the sort of comments I was referring to in my post.