Should the EU voting system be weighted?

[Two Professors]

There's no wisdom in getting lost on your way back from the shops.

That's what grandchildren are for-to guide us back!

 

[looney]

There's no wisdom in getting lost on your way back from the shops.

So you want a world driven by immaturity and infantilism? Oh effing great we will end up with Pepper Pig as Prime Minister, no doubt Cameron will try to screw her as well.

 

[melias shoes]

Surely the less time you have to live with the consequences, the less your vote should count. For every 10 years you've been on this planet (and others), your vote should be weighted less 20%.

Age
18-30 100% weighted vote
30-40 80%
40-50 60%
50-60 40%
50-60 20%
60-70 10%
80+ You've had your time and in 7 years time when the shite really hits the fan you'll statistically be tied to a television.

Just a thought, eh.

 

[Norman Baker suck my lozenge]

At least my vote actually counts this time..... whatever way i decide !

So don't dilute it !

Exactly,you could stick a blue rosette on a dog turd in Worthing and the Daily mail brigade would still vote for it,at least on Thursday my vote will count.

 

[Soulman]

Seems to be a general consensus that the youngsters will vote remain. Some like this 18 year old student seem switched on.

Hi, my name is Rhiannon. I am an 18-year-old college student based in West London. I study A-levels in History, Politics and Sociology and hope to go to university to study Politics and International Relations in September 2017. In my spare time I enjoy horse riding, volunteering with my local Riding for the Disabled (RDA) branch and reading. I’m currently enjoying two fantastic books, both of which I highly recommend: Head of State by Andrew Marr, and On Afghanistan’s Plains by Barry Alexander.
I guess my interest in politics and current affairs began when I took Government and Politics A-level whilst I was at sixth form. It didn’t quite work out. Although it was a major blow to my self-esteem at the time, landing at the local FE college in September 2015 was the best thing that could have happened to me. I joined the debating society, made the team and we are now on our way to the finals of a national competition. This, combined with my academic success, means that I feel I am now in a position to really get going and try a spot of blogging.

This is what she has to say on the EU referendum....https://politicsgirlblog.wordpress.com/category/the-eu-referendum/

 

[DataPoint]

And got rich out of it. Then decided that they should charge the next generations for an education, made rent unaffordable and then have the audacity to call us all workshy and lazy.
They ruined the country.

Phew! Can't argue with that! Except.... perhaps.....do young people know anything about anything outside than their surreal, bubble world of technical socialising? Or perhaps there is a substitute for experience.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

perhaps there is a substitute for experience.

Fresh thoughts and approaches?

 

[ofco8]

Strange the post war generation, who had suffered much deprivation in the fifties, managed to forge a life of full employment, good wages, buy houses in their twenties etc. This was done by a good education and hard work. And no, the younger generation are not supporting the seniors.They paid their dues and taxes all their working lives.

All the EU years has given younger generations is further education you have to pay for, longer working hours, no chance of a mortgage until you are heading for middle age, loss of manufacturing jobs etc. Unless you are an unelected, perked up EU employed leech of course.

No idea why anybody would want to remain.



Can't see why you are so enthralled into remaining.

 

[Soulman]

Strange the post war generation, who had suffered much deprivation in the fifties, managed to forge a life of full employment, good wages, buy houses in their twenties etc. This was done by a good education and hard work. And no, the younger generation are not supporting the seniors.They paid their dues and taxes all their working lives.

All the EU years has given younger generations is further education you have to pay for, longer working hours, no chance of a mortgage until you are heading for middle age, loss of manufacturing jobs etc. Unless you are an unelected, perked up EU employed leech of course.

No idea why anybody would want to remain.



Can't see why you are so enthralled into remaining.

Good post.

 

[5ways]

Strange the post war generation, who had suffered much deprivation in the fifties, managed to forge a life of full employment, good wages, buy houses in their twenties etc. This was done by a good education and hard work. And no, the younger generation are not supporting the seniors.They paid their dues and taxes all their working lives.

All the EU years has given younger generations is further education you have to pay for, longer working hours, no chance of a mortgage until you are heading for middle age, loss of manufacturing jobs etc. Unless you are an unelected, perked up EU employed leech of course.

No idea why anybody would want to remain.



Can't see why you are so enthralled into remaining.

You're making a massive false correlation between pre-EU times being good and post-EU times being bad. This came up about 400 pages ago on the EU thread but the basic fact of the matter is that the world is changing. In 1960/70 anyone could get a half decent job and raise a family because the UK a large part of global GDP. UK GDP was larger than China's as recently as the 1990s.

The world is changing and the UK has to scrape and scrap for every job, every percentage of GDP and every opportunity to get ahead of its many competitors.

The global economy of the future will benefit those who write the rules. We wrote them post-war and did very well - no one to argue. Well now lots of people want a say. It will be those with the biggest economies who shape the rules and the system that suits them. This is the reality:

Now do we write these rules as equals with the US and China, or have them dictated to us? That is what you have to ask yourselves.

There are no easy jobs, and there will be a shrinking welfare state. How to you maintain Western standards of living without historic Western economic dominance?

Moreover the EU years have been fantastic for the UK economy. Before we joined the EU we had 3 day weeks, rampant unemployment and a smaller economy than either Italy or France. Today we are bigger than both. This is partly due to Thatcher's reforms and partly due to the impact of EU standardisation, regulation and market access. We have grown far more than our competitors inside the EU. The EU has been very good for the UK economy.

The world is a tough place but leaving the EU will not allow you to work fewer hours for more money, or get a better mortage, or a manufacturing job. Being competitive and productive will, and we are more competitive and productive inside the EU. It's tough but that's th reality of the 21st century.

 

[The Birdman]

Can't go to bed to excited about the Fixtures️

 

[Dorset Seagull]

If it was to be weighted, it should be done the other way round! If I was seeking advice on anything, I would much rather listen to a 70 year old (who has life experience), than an 18 year old, just out of school.

And someone with experience of being both in and out so is able to offer an informed opinion

 

[Murray 17]

And someone with experience of being both in and out so is able to offer an informed opinion

Yes.

 

[nicko31]

You're making a massive false correlation between pre-EU times being good and post-EU times being bad. This came up about 400 pages ago on the EU thread but the basic fact of the matter is that the world is changing. In 1960/70 anyone could get a half decent job and raise a family because the UK a large part of global GDP. UK GDP was larger than China's as recently as the 1990s.

The world is changing and the UK has to scrape and scrap for every job, every percentage of GDP and every opportunity to get ahead of its many competitors.

The global economy of the future will benefit those who write the rules. We wrote them post-war and did very well - no one to argue. Well now lots of people want a say. It will be those with the biggest economies who shape the rules and the system that suits them. This is the reality:

Now do we write these rules as equals with the US and China, or have them dictated to us? That is what you have to ask yourselves.

There are no easy jobs, and there will be a shrinking welfare state. How to you maintain Western standards of living without historic Western economic dominance?

Moreover the EU years have been fantastic for the UK economy. Before we joined the EU we had 3 day weeks, rampant unemployment and a smaller economy than either Italy or France. Today we are bigger than both. This is partly due to Thatcher's reforms and partly due to the impact of EU standardisation, regulation and market access. We have grown far more than our competitors inside the EU. The EU has been very good for the UK economy.

The world is a tough place but leaving the EU will not allow you to work fewer hours for more money, or get a better mortage, or a manufacturing job. Being competitive and productive will, and we are more competitive and productive inside the EU. It's tough but that's th reality of the 21st century.

The pensioners have short memories, they have benefited massively from EU membership. Now they retired, relaxed, have their final salary schemes and huge property equity to fund their cruises they cruises, they hate Europe

 

[heathgate]

Surely the less time you have to live with the consequences, the less your vote should count. For every 10 years you've been on this planet (and others), your vote should be weighted less 20%.

Age
18-30 100% weighted vote
30-40 80%
40-50 60%
50-60 40%
50-60 20%
60-70 10%
80+ You've had your time and in 7 years time when the shite really hits the fan you'll statistically be tied to a television.

Just a thought, eh.

Surely the reverse... the less you have lived as a voting adult, the less life experience you have to make an informed decision .!!

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[Pavilionaire]

And got rich out of it. Then decided that they should charge the next generations for an education, made rent unaffordable and then have the audacity to call us all workshy and lazy.
They ruined the country.

Indeed. Then, once retired, they'll spend your inheritance on cruises then expect you to pay for their day care and funeral.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

Strange the post war generation, who had suffered much deprivation in the fifties, managed to forge a life of full employment, good wages, buy houses in their twenties etc. This was done by a good education and hard work. And no, the younger generation are not supporting the seniors.They paid their dues and taxes all their working lives.

All the EU years has given younger generations is further education you have to pay for, longer working hours, no chance of a mortgage until you are heading for middle age, loss of manufacturing jobs etc. Unless you are an unelected, perked up EU employed leech of course.

No idea why anybody would want to remain.



Can't see why you are so enthralled into remaining.

We have an expression often used in our house: "It's all Thatcher's fault". I think all of the highlighted above would fit better in to that category than having anything to do with the EU.

No idea why anybody would want to leave........

 

[Albumen]

It goes to show you fear more with age. Selfish twats.
Enjoy your day.

 

[alfredmizen]

Surely the less time you have to live with the consequences, the less your vote should count. For every 10 years you've been on this planet (and others), your vote should be weighted less 20%.

Age
18-30 100% weighted vote
30-40 80%
40-50 60%
50-60 40%
50-60 20%
60-70 10%
80+ You've had your time and in 7 years time when the shite really hits the fan you'll statistically be tied to a television.

Just a thought, eh.

Sure , no problem , it can also be weighted on the AMOUNT of consequences you have to live with , say Someone from lincolnshire which is flooded with eastern europeans has a vote that is worth far more than someone from say, brighton, which, isnt ?