Should the EU voting system be weighted?

[Southwest Seagull]

If it was to be weighted, it should be done the other way round! If I was seeking advice on anything, I would much rather listen to a 70 year old (who has life experience), than an 18 year old, just out of school.

Do you speak to many 70 year olds?

 

[Sussex Nomad]

I thought this thread was going to be advocating fatties only get a small vote. Ah well... I'll move on.

 

[GT49er]

Some day all these youngsters that reckon they know best, and that older people must just be selfish in wishing to leave, will find out something. One day, they will probably have kids, and then they will suddenly find out what the rest of us already know - that every parent (and grandparent) wants what's best for their children. Not necessarily for themselves, but for their children.

 

[Seagull27]

Some day all these youngsters that reckon they know best, and that older people must just be selfish in wishing to leave, will find out something. One day, they will probably have kids, and then they will suddenly find out what the rest of us already know - that every parent (and grandparent) wants what's best for their children. Not necessarily for themselves, but for their children.

That's not necessarily a good thing in all cases. Parents and grandparents may be more likely (understandably) to vote in favour of what they predict will be best for their children and families, whereas people without such responsibilities may look at the bigger picture and vote in favour of what benefits the country, or indeed the planet, as a whole.

 

[GT49er]

That's not necessarily a good thing in all cases. Parents and grandparents may be more likely (understandably) to vote in favour of what they predict will be best for their children and families, whereas people without such responsibilities may look at the bigger picture and vote in favour of what benefits the country, or indeed the planet, as a whole.

What benefits the country, and the planet, etc, will also benefit the children. Voting for what's best for my children is not an alternative to what's best for the country - the two go hand in hand.
It's significant that while you label the parents' view as "what they predict", but you don't include the slightly critical rider "what they predict" to the view of those you think are voting for the good of the planet,

 

[Seagull27]

What benefits the country, and the planet, etc, will also benefit the children. Voting for what's best for my children is not an alternative to what's best for the country - the two go hand in hand.
It's significant that while you label the parents' view as "what they predict", but you don't include the slightly critical rider "what they predict" to the view of those you think are voting for the good of the planet,

Not always the case. For example, inheritance tax. Most people, quite understandably, want to hand their inheritance to their children. However, it would benefit society the most in economic terms if their inheritance was spread across many more people.

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[GT49er]

Not always the case. For example, inheritance tax. Most people, quite understandably, want to hand their inheritance to their children. However, it would benefit society the most in economic terms if their inheritance was spread across many more people.

Haven't heard inheritance tax mentioned by either side, so not relevant. Don't suppose the rules will change either way the referendum goes.

 

[Seagull27]

Haven't heard inheritance tax mentioned by either side, so not relevant. Don't suppose the rules will change either way the referendum goes.

I'm not talking about the referendum, just giving an example of where people with children may be more inclined to vote for things that directly benefit their own children, rather than what will benefit the wider society.

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[gregbrighton]

Gregbrighton does these kind of threads best.

I don't do poll threads these days. And I have cut down on 'nosey' threads too. I have more than enough material to w*nk off to now...

 

[GingerBeerMan]

I post I made elsewhere probably betrays my thoughts on the matter...

If we only listened to the educated the poorer less-educated class would suffer. You can't deny a lot of low skilled jobs are currently worked by economic migrants, te same jobs the less educated are competing for. I'm voting remain but you must see how your suggestion is silly on more than one level?

 

[looney]

Surely the less time you have to live with the consequences, the less your vote should count. For every 10 years you've been on this planet (and others), your vote should be weighted less 20%.

Age
18-30 100% weighted vote
30-40 80%
40-50 60%
50-60 40%
50-60 20%
60-70 10%
80+ You've had your time and in 7 years time when the shite really hits the fan you'll statistically be tied to a television.

Just a thought, eh.

Given that most sane societies believe in the wisdom of the elders shouldn't it be weighted towards the old?

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Not always the case. For example, inheritance tax. Most people, quite understandably, want to hand their inheritance to their children. However, it would benefit society the most in economic terms if their inheritance was spread across many more people.

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Interesting point. Passing on inheritance certainly does perpetuate inequality. However in a system of unlimited migration where labour and capital will move to a strong economy like the UK then passing on inheritance is the only way to ensure your own kids don't lose out in this capitalist nirvana. I am certainly preparing to ditch my progressive views come Friday and the inevitable Remain vote. I am not prepared to let my kids suffer low wages/ high rents while the multinationals rake in the profits. Unfortunately that is a rigged system and will make left wing politics irrelevant.

 

[Marshy]

At least my vote actually counts this time..... whatever way i decide !

So don't dilute it !

 

[Diego Napier]

If we only listened to the educated the poorer less-educated class would suffer. You can't deny a lot of low skilled jobs are currently worked by economic migrants, te same jobs the less educated are competing for. I'm voting remain but you must see how your suggestion is silly on more than one level?

I think you'll find that the educated care more about the poor than you suggest.

Or at least the educated of a certain political shade.....

 

[seagull_in_malaysia]

Yes let's weight it based on how much tax you pay too...

 

[nicko31]

I love these type of threads...

Think you lose % weighing too if you have a BMI >30

 

[Steve.S]

Is that imperial units or Metric

 

[Two Professors]

Shame you weren't around to stand up to Jimmy Savile! I hope your infection's cleared up.

Penicillin used to work back then!

 

[Albumen]

Given that most sane societies believe in the wisdom of the elders shouldn't it be weighted towards the old?

There's no wisdom in getting lost on your way back from the shops.

 

[Two Professors]

I think you'll find that the educated care more about the poor than you suggest.

Or at least the educated of a certain political shade.....

Ah,a Lib-Dem!