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Should England boycott Qatar and host her own tournament in 2022?



The Spanish

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Aug 12, 2008
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Indeed St. Pauli held such an alternative tournament a few years back, ill have to check the attendances to see how successful it was. If we could throw money at it then some countries may indeed really want to be involved!

ah yes their hilarious unrecognised by FIFA tournament won by the TRNC founded at the point of the Turkish armies guns and an invasion that displaced 200 000 people and featuring amongst other things thousands of mass rapes murders and disappearances.

Good old groovy St Pauli.
 




simmo

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Feb 8, 2008
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I remember this sentiment when McClaren was in charge.

The manager is irrelevant, no one can name a silk purse from the pigs ears that play for England.

Spot on, some people on here blame Capello, before they blamed Ericsson, or McClaren or Keegan or whomever the poisoned chalice fell to.

When are they going to realise it is because of the technical inabilities of English players compared to their Spanish, German, Dutch, Brazilian, Argentinian, Swedish, Portuguese, French counterparts etc. the list goes on and on and on that we are some way from winning a tournament, whomever was/is in charge.
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,952
Surrey
I remember this sentiment when McClaren was in charge.

The manager is irrelevant, no one can name a silk purse from the pigs ears that play for England.
That has now become apparent. Time for the FA to do away with stupid £6m manager contracts and pay a sensible about for a sensible coach (don't care what nationality) and plough their money into initiatives (at grass roots?) that might enable our team to actually compete in a generation or so.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
62,693
The Fatherland
The best thing England can do is to start doing the leg work for getting Platini elected when the FIFA position comes up again. Whilst he is not perfect, more often than not he has fairness and the game central to his thoughts. He also stands a very good chance of getting elected so this is a realistic aim. But, Platini needs the big European hitters to back him. They'll be some pay off for us if we do this and he gets the gig.

It's a shame we do not have a suitable candidate ourselves.
 


Storer 68

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Apr 19, 2011
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The real undrlying problem here is that other members of FIFA want to strip the home country FAs (england, scotland, Wales, N.ireland) of their power base within the structure of FIA. At the moment we have permanent seats within various bits of FIFA
 




Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
31,264
This is what will happen:

1. Blatter, having been re-elected, will be seen to initiate drastic reforms. In fact this will be with a gun to his head; if he'd wanted to do this of his own volition he could have done it anytiome over the last decade.

2. Blatter will retire on health grounds within 12 months

3. The incoming President will drag out the enquiry giving Blatter time to seep into the shadows, then some compromise changes will come in and bad news will be buried during WC 2014 in Brazil.

4. Having "cleaned up" FIFA the new President will then visit a couple of new football stadiums in Qatar and endorse their hosting of the 2022 Finals.
 


Gritt23

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Jul 7, 2003
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I think we should pull out due to the climate. Sod a winter break, we are pasty northern, fair skinned and should take a summer break, certainly that summer.

If we pull out of the tournament would we automatically get banned for a period of time? What if we were to play a "weakened team" in the qualifiers?
 


Icy Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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I think we should pull out due to the climate. Sod a winter break, we are pasty northern, fair skinned and should take a summer break, certainly that summer.

If we pull out of the tournament would we automatically get banned for a period of time? What if we were to play a "weakened team" in the qualifiers?

Maybe this would be a good time to fail to qualify again, we won't necessarily have to field a weakened team to do it either.
 




Storer 68

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Apr 19, 2011
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I can't see many countries actually wanting to compete in Qatar.
We're talking about a country which is basically a desert, prone to sudden, violent dust storms and with no summer rainfall. Temperatures can reach 50 °C (122 °F) in July, so it would simply be a test of endurance; footballing skill would come a very poor second. The fact that it easily won the vote can only be due to one thing, so should the FA invite nations to compete for a rival tournament, maybe The Queen Elizabeth Trophy?
FIFA would not sanction this of course, but we could ignore them; then if they threatened to expel us we could say "fine" and form a new world body.
What say you, NSC?
Anyone agreeing to take part would be expelled from FIFA. and that means other teams as well as england. that's a really hard sell for FA so

What happens if no one turns up. Do we play a five a side england a v england b
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
72,327
If we were to opt out of the FIFA 2022 World Cup in Qatar then sadly we'd probably also have to opt out of all European club competitions also, cos one of the ideas being mooted was to completely re-jig the European football seasons such that the World Cup could be played at a time of year in Qatar when its just about possible for professional sportsmen to run around at full pelt for an hour and a half without running the serious risk of dying from sunstroke or dehydration or even the dream double.
 


seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
43,944
Crap Town
Qatar want to hold the World Cup in January which will cock up most European domestic leagues.
 




GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
49,186
Gloucester
Yes, we should withdraw from the Qatar world cup as soon as we ar4e eliminated from the 2016 one, at whatever stage that happens. I'm sure there would be some decent teams who don't qualify for Qatar who would be happy to come to a tournament in England. The home nations would be welcome too.
FIFA might throw the book at us - but there is, as far as I know, no rule that says you've got to enter the World Cup. And it's by no means certain that UEFA would follow FIFA's lead and boot us out.
OK, Brazil won't leave FIFA, but there's plenty of other proper footballing nations who are fed up with FIFA (even if they don't like us very much either!) It's all very well trying to spread the football gospel, but the trouble is, is all the tin-pot little footballing nations, who come from parts of the world where bungs and corruption are the norm, who are voting for all this crap like a world cup in Qatar; they were no doubt well satisfied with their rewards - and are we bothered that we might never have to play Rwanda or Benin or Khazakhstan again?
 


Sloe Joe

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Oct 7, 2010
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Since football originated here, why not as opposed to under Septic Bladder who's country has no football heritage whatsoever - and come to think of it, what does he know about football anyway.
Totally unsuited to his job. I might as well become a midwife or stockbroker.
 


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