Should Capello

[fleet]

Yes - needs to keep discipline.

 

[Billy the Fish]

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I bet sometimes they all just want to do what Joe Kinnear did

 

[Billy the Fish]

The general picture from the press, whether from the TV/Radio press conference or the print press conference seems to me to be more about Terry claiming to speak for the entire squad, and giving answers that at best, leave you wondering whether he is complimenting Capello or not, at worst is a calculated attempt to undermine the manager, preparing the excuses ready to blame him.

Coming out to say unpalatable things to authority on behalf of team mates is a good thing to do, and was treated as such at the time. When it came out that these comments were not being given on behalf of the squad, but were in fact part of some self-serving, underhanded ploy, it becomes something else entirely.

No, it wasn't the "outburst" that some people describe it as. Some fans may see elements of truth in Terry's appraisal of the situation. But it turns out it wasn't his place to say such things, at least, not if he is going to cowardly claim everyone else agrees when they don't, simply for fear of sticking himself out there.

Not only is it disingenuous to attribute the claims to his team mates, it causes resentment, and in an already tense side such actions aren't helpful. (And conversely it would have created some sense of unity among the team if he had been speaking on their behalf, but he wasn't)

Link to the interview is in this thread from yesterday. Watch it all the way through and then try and tell me that you haven't got the wrong end of the stick. Thatgoes for a few others on this thread as well.

John Terry - North Stand Chat

 

[Billy the Fish]

From where are you basing the full quote on? Because 3 print journos all have the same quote as the independent when will people get their head round that what was seen on tv was half me what was said?

John terry news conference in full

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8750168.stm

 

[beorhthelm]

Terry became ever more indiscreet. "You don't see the side of him [Capello] storming around the dressing room kicking and throwing things," Terry said. "He shows that real passion." Was that a compliment or a criticism?

i do recall him saying that. but to the question, it was very much compliment, matter of fact, common expection of management behaviour.

but they are twisting and misquoting everything to paint the picture they want to. its been a very poor weekend for journalism.

 

[The Wizard]

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I bet sometimes they all just want to do what Joe Kinnear did

 

[Acker79]

John terry news conference in full

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8750168.stm

Is that the TV one or the print media one?

 

[Billy the Fish]

1. 9/11
John Terry was fined two weeks wages by Chelsea after a drinking session with team mates Jody Morris, Frank Lampard and Eidur Gudjohnsen at a Heathrow hotel which culminated in the harassment of American tourists at a Heathrow hotel in the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 attacks on New York. The players embarked on their binge after their game against Levski Sofia had been called off out of respect to the victims of the terrorist attack.

I've never understood the outrage over this. They went out drinking, so what? It's an attack on a foreign country. How much of that story was made up as well? I'd bet any money they didn't even see an american tourist

2. Assault and Affray
In January 2002 Terry was arrested for affray while out celebrating the birth of team mate Jody Morris' first child. The pair were held overnight at Belgravia police station and questioned over an alleged attack on a male receptionist, before eventually being cleared of all charges - and all this just thirty-six hours before an away game at Norwich City!

There's a CCTV video of it somewhere. They had a ruck with some bouncers and got done for it

3. Gambling
The Chelsea captain was one of several high profile players exposed by numerous tabloid newspapers as being heavily involved in horse racing. Tabloids speculated that Terry, amongst others, was spending tens of thousands of pounds at a time on the horses at a bookmakers near the Chelsea training ground in Cobham. Although soon after the story broke, John Terry signed a new contract worth £130,000 per week with the West London club, somewhat dwarfing the severity of money laid down at the bookies!

His money, who gives a shit

4. Respect
Despite being a key figure in publicising the Premier League's new 'Respect' campaign aimed towards increasing the respect shown to referees by footballers on the field, John Terry has emerged as one of the key violators of it. Chelsea have been fined for failing to control their players a number of times in the past few seasons, and Chelsea's display of dissent against the famously incompetant referee Tom Henning Ovrebo after their Champions League exit to Barcelona did little to improve their public image.

A football wide problem, most top players are guilty of it

5. Infidelity
The Chelsea ace has apparently been caught stepping out on his wife Toni Poole by the tabloid press a number of times despite being quoted saying "I've never cheated on Toni and I never would." John Terry was later quoted saying "I really regret what I’ve done to Toni. I’ve misbehaved and slept with girls behind her back and that’s not right. She knows about it all now and we’re moving on. I’m not going to cheat on her ever again."

None of my business, who gives a shit

6. Paparazzi Attacks
No good celebrity should go without a good paparazzi attack, and the same is allegedly true of John Terry and some Chelsea teammates who clashed with a photographer outside a restaurant on Fulham Road in October 2007. The photographer called the police claiming the Chelsea players had prevented him from taking photographs and damaged his scooter before disappearing before the police arrived.

Most of these leaches deserve a slap anyway. There was a TV show with that discusting aussie bloke who runs a photo agency. I defy anyone to watch that and then tell me they care if someone hits a paparazzi

7. Spitting?
An uncertain entry in to the John Terry hall of shame. Did he? Didn't he? No one really knows but we're not going to get 10 without scraping the barrel! After Didier Drogba's moronic red card for a slap on Nemanja Vidic in the Champions League Final in 2008, John Terry was seen delivering angry words and possibly more towards Carlos Tevez as the Argentinian was being booked.

pathetic, f***ing grow up

8. Fraud
Well, not really, but according to the Sun the England defender was questioned over an expensive wedding gift given by a convicted fraudster who made hundreds of thousands of pounds by forging famous sports stars signatures and selling them on to unsuspecting supporters.

again, eho gives a shit

9. Speeding Fine
The England captain was caught by police speed cameras taking his Bentley for a spin at a despicable 63mph in a 50mph zone. The £130,000 per week defender was given three points on his license and had to pay a costly £300 in costs and fines.

f*** me, 63 in a 50. A massive 13mph (less than someong jogging) Hang the c**t, string him up

10. Parking in a Disabled Bay
In 2008 John Terry, while taking his family out for dinner at a Pizza Express restaurant at Esher in Surrey, parked his Bentley in a disabled bay and was promptly fined £60.

Well f*** me again, lets hang this c**t now, string him, his family, his pets, his girlfriends pets and everyone he's ever met. Parking in a disabled bay, shooting's too good for them

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[Deportivo Seagull]

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Well terry certainly doesn't seem to have a problem ganging his team out to dry

 

[Billy the Fish]

Is that the TV one or the print media one?

The TV one from start to finish, no editing.
Don't the print media take all their quotes from the same press conference anyway? Fair play if I'm wrong, but surely they don't have two press conferences

 

[brakespear]

I reckon this has been expertly setup by the rest of the squad:

'No,no John we're all behind you, 100%, you go for it in the meeting we'll back you all the way'
(later)
'Yeah, I'm sick and tired of all this bull shit and the lads are all with me aren't you lads?'
*crickets*
'Lads?.....'

 

[Gwylan]

I reckon Terry would be dropped if Ferdinand or King were playing but I can't see Capello going with a completely new pairing.

He does sound well pissed off with JT though, if Capello stays, I think Terry's days are numbered.

 

[Acker79]

The TV one from start to finish, no editing.
Don't the print media take all their quotes from the same press conference anyway? Fair play if I'm wrong, but surely they don't have two press conferences

Someone earlier in the thread suggested there were two.

 

[Billy the Fish]

Someone earlier in the thread suggested there were two.

Interesting. Very strange if that's true, why would you bother

 

[Simster]

Wayne Bridge must be laughing his tits off.

 

[Acker79]

Interesting. Very strange if that's true, why would you bother

Limited space for everyone? TV and Radio may be live and require strict time regiments?

 

[Worthai Seagull]

I reckon Terry would be dropped if Ferdinand or King were playing but I can't see Capello going with a completely new pairing.

He does sound well pissed off with JT though, if Capello stays, I think Terry's days are numbered.

Capello, might just say 'f*** it' , and drop Terry . To him it wont be a problem if he plays Dawson and Upson, because frankly i cant see him staying on .
He's now found out whats its like to manage this lot of underachievers, and has maybe had enough.
The prima donnas hate his 'boot room' methods, and his intransigents, which is fine over a few days while qualifying, but for 5 weeks is too much for the dears !
He wont budge.. so there is a massive conflict which is never going to change.
There is definitely ,'trouble 't mill'

 

[ROSM]

Interesting. Very strange if that's true, why would you bother

There were 3. One for tv and radio, one for uk news papers and one for other print media. It's all on the previous page. I know the media are guilty of a lot but here terry has said more than shown on tv and the print media have got things that the tv only started to lift the lid on.

 

[Billy the Fish]

There were 3. One for tv and radio, one for uk news papers and one for other print media. It's all on the previous page. I know the media are guilty of a lot but here terry has said more than shown on tv and the print media have got things that the tv only started to lift the lid on.

Any ideas why they'd do it like that?

From the FA's point of view surely that's just two more opportunities for footballers to put their foot in it

The print journos must love it, see the TV lads soften up the target live on the box, then focus on the really juicy stuff.