[Travel] Shoreham Traffic

[Insel affe]

The scrap metal remains

for now

 

[LamieRobertson]

for now

True

 

[LamieRobertson]

It's probably the most apt comment on this thread.

Umm ..I’d say my reply re why it was particularly bad at mo ..but you can have it if you like lol

I’m back to the paintbrush now ..third day of decorating yuk

Still it keeps me off the roads

 

[Eric the meek]

I must confess, my wife and I get quite excited about all the development going on in Shoreham. We often drive along the coast road to check on progress, and then drive even further to Shoreham Beach just beyond Emerald Quay, and park up to watch the workmen from across the river and eat our sandwiches. We give ourselves one point if we see a workman in a hi-vis, and three points for one in double hi-vis.

Then it's on to the fort car park to feed the wagtail, who attacks our wing mirror as he thinks it's a rival, and all without buying a parking ticket. What. a. day.

#livingthedream

 

[CheeseRolls]

I must confess, my wife and I get quite excited about all the development going on in Shoreham. We often drive along the coast road to check on progress, and then drive even further to Shoreham Beach just beyond Emerald Quay, and park up to watch the workmen from across the river and eat our sandwiches. We give ourselves one point if we see a workman in a hi-vis, and three points for one in double hi-vis.

Then it's on to the fort car park to feed the wagtail, who attacks our wing mirror as he thinks it's a rival, and all without buying a parking ticket. What. a. day.

#livingthedream

One for you Eric

If you don't already could I please ask that you take your litter home. This is what happens to the stuff people put in the bins, once the foxes and seagulls have had their say.

 

[SteveU]

I'm sure you can work it out. Check out some of his other posts.

If that’s the case, you both have your own agenda.

I’m merely pointing out the relevance to that post.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

If that’s the case, you both have your own agenda.

I’m merely pointing out the relevance to that post.

I genuinely don't understand what you have an issue with. I don't have an agenda. I made an observation and inference and acted on it.

 

[Eric the meek]

One for you Eric

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If you don't already could I please ask that you take your litter home. This is what happens to the stuff people put in the bins, once the foxes and seagulls have had their say.

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That's a cracking photograph. A bit Turner-esque, but looking east instead of west into the sunset, with the lights on the cranes reflected in the still water of the Adur. You even managed to get the Plough in at top right.

Point taken about the rubbish. I usually do take it all home, but occasionally we do use the bins. I certainly won't from now on.

 

[Brovion]

You're going to have to enlighten me as the thread is entitled Shoreham Traffic, there are numerous posts about new developments and gridlock - far too many to link.
Yes I was selective as I glossed over Birmingham, Immigration and the anti Lancing stuff (because - I didn't understand).

But to me this thread reads like one suggesting too many homes and not enough room, with the main theme running through of 'I can't drive my car because there are too many other cars on the road'. - please tell me otherwise.

Yeah, you just saw 'Traffic' and piled in in your usual one-eyed way. (Said with love, no offence ).

The main concerns posters have raised have been schools, doctors, even the sewage. Most of the people commenting on here have been the very opposite of 'carbrained'. It was admittedly the thread title, but it very soon moved onto the (over)development of Shoreham as a whole. (And the A259 is still a through road, so a large proportion of it is not Shoreham-related at all)

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

That's a cracking photograph. A bit Turner-esque, but looking east instead of west into the sunset, with the lights on the cranes reflected in the still water of the Adur. You even managed to get the Plough in at top right.

Point taken about the rubbish. I usually do take it all home, but occasionally we do use the bins. I certainly won't from now on.

We pay the council to empty them

Rubbish strewn everywhere like that is more a symptom of local government dysfunctionality than a slight on the people who've put rubbish in a public bin

 

[Brovion]

That was nearly 50 years ago – the whole WORLD was different then, let alone traffic levels.
...

Without wishing to labour the point (too much) it WAS still a surprise as I remembered it how it used to be. A bit like re-visiting a holiday destination that used to be off the beaten track but is now crawling with tourists.

 

[zefarelly]

Here he is a couple of years ago trying to convince us that the development in Shoreham is a brilliant thing and we should all embrace it. With his vision for “a harbour quarter” and that the poplar tree should be ripped out to allow space for bins.

The Poplar Front and Overdevelopment in Shoreham

The Poplar Front and Overdevelopment In Shoreham Many of you have contacted me regarding the planning application on the old Civic Centre site, I hope you will forgive this general reply which aims to encompass most of the issues that have been raised with me.

www.timloughton.com

Tim Laughton is up there in the red zone on my cuntometer

His continued presence proves how stupid the common voter is . . The parasitic leech doesn’t even live here.

 

[Stat Brother]

Yeah, you just saw 'Traffic' and piled in in your usual one-eyed way. (Said with love, no offence ).

The main concerns posters have raised have been schools, doctors, even the sewage. Most of the people commenting on here have been the very opposite of 'carbrained'. It was admittedly the thread title, but it very soon moved onto the (over)development of Shoreham as a whole.

Fair but a little disingenuous as traffic is littered either directly or implied throughout the thread as well.

There will always be temporary lights and all manner of other carbrain excuses thrown around to detract away from the simple truth.

Perversely a correct and proper amount of schools and doctors surgeries will also increase traffic, all the time other options are so inadequate they aren't even considered.

 

[zefarelly]

All day long - this.

Sussex coastal towns and villages being over developed and gridlocked my well be the only way to get people to look beyond the end of their paved over front garden.

Oi, I remeble that remark . . . Actually I don't, we only did 1/3 . . . All residential plots should be 50% green drainage IMO, it should be law.

I may have a double figures collection of vehicles, but also 3 bikes and cycle to work every day, quickest way through and round town.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Would our kids want to settle in the Midlands and North?

They may not have a choice.

 

[Weststander]

They may not have a choice.

Blair let the cork out with free movement. Admirable on paper, most of us welcomed the hard working folk from eastern Europe.

But infrastructure wasn’t adjusted for the millions of new UK residents, housing supply trickled along.

Looking forward, if millions of new homes were built in the Midlands and North, would vast numbers of southerners in their 20’s and 30’s move there? Would there be the careers and jobs there?

Blair and all who’ve followed patently didn’t/haven’t strategically planned. Leaving the mess we’re on. Shelter say we need 3.1 brand new social housing units. Where are the improved public transport systems, new GP surgeries?

 

[SteveU]

I genuinely don't understand what you have an issue with. I don't have an agenda. I made an observation and inference and acted on it.

I have an issue with someone jumping on a post and twisting it to claim that the poster is right wing when it clearly wasn’t the case. It’s that simple.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Blair let the cork out with free movement. Admirable on paper, most of us welcomed the hard working folk from eastern Europe.

But infrastructure wasn’t adjusted for the millions of new UK residents, housing supply trickled along.

Looking forward, if millions of new homes were built in the Midlands and North, would vast numbers of southerners in their 20’s and 30’s move there? Would there be the careers and jobs there?

Blair and all who’ve followed patently didn’t/haven’t strategically planned. Leaving the mess we’re on. Shelter say we need 3.1 brand new social housing units. Where are the improved public transport systems, new GP surgeries?

Well exactly, and that was my initial point, there is no infrastructure.

Harsh as it sounds, youngsters/Southerners may not have a choice…..
As for jobs and careers, fortunately we are a lot better off in that respect than the early 80s, so there may be jobs….

 

[Weststander]

Well exactly, and that was my initial point, there is no infrastructure.

Harsh as it sounds, youngsters/Southerners may not have a choice…..
As for jobs and careers, fortunately we are a lot better off in that respect than the early 80s, so there may be jobs….

Practicalities:

- where would the jobs be, other than in construction? If huge Barratts//housing association estates were built on Teeside, South Yorkshire, an expanded Northampton, an expanded Preston, what careers and jobs would there be for the influx of millions of migrants and displaced young folk from southern England.

- wouldn’t the south become even wealthier per house and household if new housebuilding stopped here, solely for the lucky ones owning their home? Supply and demand.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Practicalities:

- where would the jobs be, other than in construction? If huge Barratts//housing association estates were built on Teeside, South Yorkshire, an expanded Northampton, an expanded Preston, what careers and jobs would there be for the influx of millions of migrants and displaced young folk from southern England.

- wouldn’t the south become even wealthier per house and household if new housebuilding stopped here, solely for the lucky ones owning their home? Supply and demand.

I think you underestimate the Midlands, Yorkshire and North West particularly, on the jobs front.

Re the South, perhaps, but as per both of our earlier points, if there is no infrastructure to support houses, then for me ‘yes’ it should stop.

There needs to be proper consideration and planning, not just blindly building.