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[Football] Sheffield Wednesday
- Thread starter pornomagboy
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I don't claim to know all the ins and outs but I think the two cases are different in that Wednesday were seeking to spend more than they had available on the team to gamble on promotion. The fans benefited from watching a better team than they should have been capable of. In our case, our owners were actively seeking to run the club into the ground and benefit from the sale of the ground.
SeagullinExile
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Im sorry for the fans tbh. Not their fault. We've had our fair share of shit.
I wish them all the best.
durrington gull
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EFL bottled it - should have been this season
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
That Coldplay phone light show and the arrogance after the play-off game up there hurt.
Feck 'em.
Feck 'em.
Would have still stayed up anyway, so next season is worse for them ?
Randy McNob
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- Jun 13, 2020
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when are the football authorities going to act and protect clubs from egomaniac owners?, football clubs belong to communities, they should make all stadiums community assets for a start
Weststander
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An overspend on players by the cheats of £27.5m.
So funny that it failed, they didn’t get promoted and probably won’t for at least another two years.
There’s was an easy case to prove because they lied about the ‘sale’ date, bringing the ‘gain’ into a set of accounts a year earlier than the transaction happened. Could only have been done to circumvent FFP.
At the same time breaching company law and mandatory accounting standards.
Clowns.
So funny that it failed, they didn’t get promoted and probably won’t for at least another two years.
There’s was an easy case to prove because they lied about the ‘sale’ date, bringing the ‘gain’ into a set of accounts a year earlier than the transaction happened. Could only have been done to circumvent FFP.
At the same time breaching company law and mandatory accounting standards.
Clowns.
Goring-by-Seagull
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- Jan 5, 2012
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Yes, correct, I can’t subtract [emoji23][emoji23]
Weststander
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A 12 points deduction this season would’ve sent Massive down. That’s always been the normal punishment.
The EFL have the Wigan and Barnsley appeal to deal with, so it’s reported that with the fixtures out soon, sending another club down and then their inevitable appeal, is undoable in a short time frame.
Not Andy Naylor
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This is the point, of course. Your first sentence, anyway.
While the cases of us in the war years, #twats in 2010 and Wigan and Sheffield Wednesday (and Derby) now are all different, the common factor is the football authorities not seeing what was really going on and acting soon enough.
With regard to their inadequate responses, partly it is because they fear repeats of what happened when they tried to hit Tottenham with a points deduction and expulsion from the FA Cup and Alan Sugar hired better lawyers and got the penalties overturned. Ditto when that Winkelman person moved Wimbledon to Milton Keynes.
We need administrators who truly have their ears to the grounds at clubs and they also need to have proper powers to act on fans' behalf. I'm not holding my breath.
* I'm less sympathetic to the #twats because their fans were quite happy to accept overspending on players and refused to believe media suggestions that their various saviours and benefactors were all chancers and phonies.
Sheebo
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- Jul 13, 2003
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Completely different circumstances and incompatible. They over spent in those 3 seasons and we all knew it - could have cost us promotion EASILY. No sympathy here as they were the first to gloat at their signings like Fletcher etc
Weststander
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Completely different circumstances and incompatible. They over spent in those 3 seasons and we all knew it - could have cost us promotion EASILY. No sympathy here as they were the first to gloat at their signings like Fletcher etc
This.
The cases of the Albion mid 90’s and Massive now couldn’t be more different.
Albion - were plotless with a low budget squad, but with incredibly wealthy owners who had designs on the prime real estate of the Goldstone Ground for personal gain (via other deals), all done furtively.
In summary, fans fought against wealthy larcenists who didn’t give a monkeys if the club disappeared.
Massive - have openly gone on a huge player spending spree from Chansiri’s financial doping, to try to cheat their way to the PL, against the mandatory FFP rules they signed up to. The player spending has been fully known throughout through normal media sources and their annual accounts. The club isn’t in any financial trouble, the ground isn’t in jeopardy. Their entitled and strangely arrogant fans lapped all this up, the PL their destiny, in their deluded minds.
In summary, a FFP cheat, condoned by the entitled fans throughout, until finally today the penny dropped.
Randy McNob
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- Jun 13, 2020
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I think there needs to be government legislation like in Germany - I think its the law that no one can own more than 50% of a club and fans must have equal voting rights
jessiejames
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Was reading about this on owlstalk, one comment made me laugh, "so now that we have been cleared, we can spend as much money as we like to get promotion this season". What is it with northern teams and deluded fans?
They need to bring Educating Yorkshire back, it is an obvious failing up there!
Randy McNob
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Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
Interesting that it has the support, already, of 8 or 9 other clubs!
Sheebo
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- Jul 13, 2003
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Because every man and his dog prefer Charlton to MASSIVE!