Shane Duffy

[BensGrandad]

The 4th choice CB should really be a decent young player coming through the ranks like Dunk and Goldson were. I thought Ben Hall was going to be that player.

That is my view hence my wish for a 1 year contract player to get us through, if needed rather than a big spend.

 

[Pavilionaire]

I don't understand this view. We will have two first choice CBs out at some stage this season. If it stretches to three or four games it could potentially derail our season. We have two quality players for every other position, except Baldock's. we need four centre backs in total. Not three and an old man or an untried youngster if top two is the target.

1. We have Dunk, Goldson, Hunemeier and Bruno to cover.
2. We're losing £10mill + a season.
3. We've spunked £2-£3 mill on strikers from lower leagues that have never managed to score in this division yet with another £3 mill could go out and get a Vydra or Chris Martin that would definitely provide quality upfront.

Not having that key striker is what hurt us last season, and whilst we'll get more games from Murray than we did with Bobby we still need a man with a bit of pace up front.

If Bloom wants to spend money on Duffy then good luck to him, provided he brings in a decent forward first.

 

[Icy Gull]

1. We have Dunk, Goldson, Hunemeier and Bruno to cover.
2. We're losing £10mill + a season.
3. We've spunked £2-£3 mill on strikers from lower leagues that have never managed to score in this division yet with another £3 mill could go out and get a Vydra or Chris Martin that would definitely provide quality upfront.

Not having that key striker is what hurt us last season, and whilst we'll get more games from Murray than we did with Bobby we still need a man with a bit of pace up front.

If Bloom wants to spend money on Duffy then good luck to him, provided he brings in a decent forward first.

If CH is looking for a CB and striker, as he has said he is, then TB must have agreed so we could well get both?

 

[Grombleton]

If Bloom wants to spend money on Duffy then good luck to him, provided he brings in a decent forward first.

What if we are planning to get in both (which we know we are) but the CB signs first as it's the less complicated deal?

Unrelated, (well kinda) but I found this article quite interesting, discussing the process that players are scouted and signed: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...d-in-the-transfer-window-a-scouts-perspective

 

[pottert]

1. We have Dunk, Goldson, Hunemeier and Bruno to cover.
2. We're losing £10mill + a season.
3. We've spunked £2-£3 mill on strikers from lower leagues that have never managed to score in this division yet with another £3 mill could go out and get a Vydra or Chris Martin that would definitely provide quality upfront.

Not having that key striker is what hurt us last season, and whilst we'll get more games from Murray than we did with Bobby we still need a man with a bit of pace up front.

If Bloom wants to spend money on Duffy then good luck to him, provided he brings in a decent forward first.

What cost us last season was goals conceded not goals scored.


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[BensGrandad]

What cost us last season was CRUCUIAL goals conceded not goals scored.


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Amended for you 2nd v Burnley and QPR plus 3rd v Middlesbro.

 

[Grombleton]

Amended for you 2nd v Burnley and QPR plus 3rd v Middlesbro.

I can understand the 2nd v Burnley...but why the 3rd v Middlesborough? Why not the 2nd v QPR after Dunk was sent off? Why the 'Boro one over the others?

 

[casbom]

Alfie Mawson would be a better buy but I believe he's going to Sunderland to replace Kaboul.

 

[pottert]

People seem to forget the 95th min equaliser for Bolton against us after being 2.0 up


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[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

I can understand the 2nd v Burnley...but why the 3rd v Middlesborough? Why not the 2nd v QPR after Dunk was sent off? Why the 'Boro one over the others?

Technically the 3rd goal conceded against Boro kept us down and them promoted. A 2-0 would have seen us go up on goals scored. However had that result happened the final game at Boro could have been a lot different as the draw would have favoured us that's of course assuming every other game played out in exactly the same way it did after the 3-0.

 

[Grombleton]

Technically the 3rd goal conceded against Boro kept us down and them promoted. A 2-0 would have seen us go up on goals scored. However had that result happened the final game at Boro could have been a lot different as the draw would have favoured us that's of course assuming every other game played out in exactly the same way it did after the 3-0.

I can appreciate the one goal that was the difference, but I can't see why the Boro game would be the difference compared to other games.

 

[BensGrandad]

I can understand the 2nd v Burnley...but why the 3rd v Middlesborough? Why not the 2nd v QPR after Dunk was sent off? Why the 'Boro one over the others?

Both the Burnley and QPR goals caused us to lose 2 points and came as a result of our failure to deal with corners. The 3rd Middlesbro goal effectively stopped us getting promoted 1 more for us 1 less for them and we would have been promoted on goals scored.

 

[BensGrandad]

In fairness we have looked better dealing with corners so far this season.

 

[chaileyjem]

What cost us last season was goals conceded not goals scored.


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or not having a squad in depth.

which is what this whole thread is effectively about.

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

I can appreciate the one goal that was the difference, but I can't see why the Boro game would be the difference compared to other games.

There was no single moment that kept us down and not letting in goals late against Derby, QPR or Burnley would have also seen us promoted, but the 3rd goal Boro scored at the Amex takes on extra significance as it swung the goal difference in their favour by 2 goals, the two goals that effectively got them promoted.

 

[BensGrandad]

or not having a squad in depth.

which is what this whole thread is effectively about.

We only suffered in one position by having two players injured, the no 1 and his back up and unfortunately CH didnt rate the 3rd alternative which wouldnt happen now as he has brought in Adekugbe as an option if needed,. Had he done the same and replaced Chicksen who knows but that is water under the bridge.

 

[Grombleton]

We only suffered in one position by having two players injured, the no 1 and his back up and unfortunately CH didnt rate the 3rd alternative which wouldnt happen now as he has brought in Adekugbe as an option if needed,. Had he done the same and replaced Chicksen who knows but that is water under the bridge.

Ah, you and the LB debate...again. Yet a-****ing-gain.

 

[BensGrandad]

Ah, you and the LB debate...again. Yet a-****ing-gain.

I didnt bring it up just pointed out the obvious reason for our failure to get promoted. But we appear to have learnt our lesson

 

[Grombleton]

I didnt bring it up just pointed out the obvious reason for our failure to get promoted. But we appear to have learnt our lesson

I'm sorry, what?

 

[chaileyjem]

We only suffered in one position by having two players injured, the no 1 and his back up and unfortunately CH didnt rate the 3rd alternative which wouldnt happen now as he has brought in Adekugbe as an option if needed,. Had he done the same and replaced Chicksen who knows but that is water under the bridge.

What about only having Hemed/Baldock/Wilson in the run in/play offs ? or having to play Kayal / Stephens in virtually every game ? It wasn't just full back options.