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[Albion] Set Pieces



scwiffy

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Jun 24, 2011
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Interestingly one of the St Pauli fans said that Hurzeler even uses KO as a set piece routine! Made me think, why doesn’t everyone do that? Genius if you have the players
 








Zeus

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Jan 10, 2022
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Wow. Our players inability to beat the first man or jump and head a ball in the box at corners was all down to RDZ and not the guys who’s job it was to train that routine. No wonder Tony was happy to see him gone.
 


Littlemo

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Aug 25, 2022
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Wow. Our players inability to beat the first man or jump and head a ball in the box at corners was all down to RDZ and not the guys who’s job it was to train that routine. No wonder Tony was happy to see him gone.

I suppose it depends on how much De Zerbi listened to him though. I mean, were the reasons that we stuck with Gross and Dunk on free kicks because Stanley wanted that, or because De Zerbi wanted the other players in other positions and he said “They have to take the free kicks/corners” etc?

Maybe he really was terrible at his job but I can’t see how or why we never changed things after they didn’t work for the whole of the season. It occurred to me that maybe for some reason he couldn’t.
 




Han Solo

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May 25, 2024
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Set pieces has been somewhere between "poor" and "average", depending on season, since I started watching five years ago. Defensively usually ok, but not many goals (sometimes average) number of goals produced.
That said, think the size of the team has decreased for each season. No real surprise the strengths are in other areas.

But definitely room for improvement and looking forward (I hope) to see Hurz & his coaches ideas.
 


Han Solo

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I suppose it depends on how much De Zerbi listened to him though. I mean, were the reasons that we stuck with Gross and Dunk on free kicks because Stanley wanted that, or because De Zerbi wanted the other players in other positions and he said “They have to take the free kicks/corners” etc?

Maybe he really was terrible at his job but I can’t see how or why we never changed things after they didn’t work for the whole of the season. It occurred to me that maybe for some reason he couldn’t.
On corners, halfway through this season we returned to the familiar old "CB man train" we often saw under Potter. Might be a Nick Stanley one.
 


Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

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Oct 4, 2003
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Set pieces has been somewhere between "poor" and "average", depending on season, since I started watching five years ago. Defensively usually ok, but not many goals (sometimes average) number of goals produced.
That said, think the size of the team has decreased for each season. No real surprise the strengths are in other areas.

But definitely room for improvement and looking forward (I hope) to see Hurz & his coaches ideas.

Generally being shite at set pieces (corners especially) is the Brighton way. Sometimes last season it was like Dean Cox had possessed whoever was taking the corner such was the regularity for not getting it past the first man.
 




kevo

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Mar 8, 2008
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Fans of most teams think they are terrible at set pieces. I agree we seem to have been below average, but it would be interesting to see the stats that back it up.

One set piece we HAVEN'T been terrible at is penalties - certainly not with Ali Mac and Pedro.
 


Trevor

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Dec 16, 2012
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Han Solo

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Generally being shite at set pieces (corners especially) is the Brighton way. Sometimes last season it was like Dean Cox had possessed whoever was taking the corner such was the regularity for not getting it past the first man.
The difference between hitting the first man and delivering a corner to the most dangerous zone, the first post, is like 5 cm. Its not easy.
 




dazzer6666

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Wow. Our players inability to beat the first man or jump and head a ball in the box at corners was all down to RDZ and not the guys who’s job it was to train that routine. No wonder Tony was happy to see him gone.
Apparently NS was given almost no time at all by De Zerbi to work on set pieces, so yes, it actually is primarily down to him.
 


One Teddy Maybank

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Apparently NS was given almost no time at all by De Zerbi to work on set pieces, so yes, it actually is primarily down to him.
Wasn’t he also here under Potter though or was that someone else?

I seem to recall a fantastic header by Webster versus Chelsea, but not a lot else (I could be wrong).
 


AZ Gull

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Oct 14, 2003
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Apparently NS was given almost no time at all by De Zerbi to work on set pieces, so yes, it actually is primarily down to him.
In this clip at the fans' forum he gives the impression he could barely care LESS about them. And if he was as unclear with the players as he was in the final 15 seconds of this video, they probably had absolutely no idea what they were meant to be doing:-

 






trueblue

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Jul 5, 2003
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Hove
On corners, halfway through this season we returned to the familiar old "CB man train" we often saw under Potter. Might be a Nick Stanley one.
Dean Wilkins was doing that an era ago at Withdean. Who needs a set piece specialist?
 








HeaviestTed

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Mar 23, 2023
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does the set piece coach do defence and offence? I know our offence was awful but our defence wasn’t much better (if anyone said worse I wouldn’t argue) - does this mean we might not let in so many goals from set pieces now?
 




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