[Travel] Sentencing for 110mph wankpanzer driver. (Sorry can't find original thread)

[Stat Brother]

You know it's a bad one when the fella gets 12 years.

https://www.itv.com/news/central/2023-07-24/drug-driver-kills-father-and-two-year-old-son-after-driving-82mph-in-30mph-zone

 

[GT49er]

I think the people who are the most focused on the environment want reliable and affordable public transport. The most disadvantaged aren't going to be driving many cars

In rural areas, most people virtually have to have a car.

 

[GT49er]

The "ULEZ penalising the poor" argument is nonsense, really.

Absolutely not so.

All petrol cars manufactured since 2005 (and presumably some earlier) are ULEZ compliant, meeting the Euro 4 standard.

Anyone who can't afford to buy and run an 18 year old car can't really afford a car.

....and so say all smug car owners who can afford the car they choose, rather than any one they can get - however old, if it runs and passes its MOTs.

 

[dazzer6666]

Quite possibly not. You'll quite probably get stung for far more tax if you drive an older car than if you buy a new one.

New SUVs (which I was specifically referring to) are mostly attracting the £390 5 year tax surcharge for cars over £40k.

 

[dsr-burnley]

New SUVs (which I was specifically referring to) are mostly attracting the £390 5 year tax surcharge for cars over £40k.

Not to mention that if you buy a new car for over £40k, you've paid at least £6,666 VAT.

 

[keaton]

In rural areas, most people virtually have to have a car.

Because of inadequate public transport. Not sure much of the poor countryside is going to become a ULEZ any point soon either

 

[GT49er]

New SUVs (which I was specifically referring to) are mostly attracting the £390 5 year tax surcharge for cars over £40k.

I didn't know that - but bloody good news as far as I'm concerned (altough maybe not enough)!

 

[GT49er]

Because of inadequate public transport. Not sure much of the poor countryside is going to become a ULEZ any point soon either

Yes, and the poor buggers get bashed with poor car owners' excessive road tax. Pay £30K for a nice new electric 2.5 ton killer SUV and you're alright Jack!.

 

[Stat Brother]

We do have 3 perfectly good road transportation threads.
This one, the one with people dying and the sentencing therein.

One specifically for electric vehicles

&

[Travel] - Cars and congestion

London day travelcards to be phased out https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-66268315 Used these a lot, especially for away days in London. They don't make it easy do they. It just seems to be piling more costs onto an already ridiculously expensive rail network that is generally...

www.northstandchat.com

For all.your congestion LTN, ULEZ, public transport needs.


That said happily taking a thread away from containing tragic deaths of innocent children to discuss the personal financial implications of buying a new SUV does rather pinpoint the problem.

 

[banjo]

Drunk-driver LAUGHS as passengers beg her to slow down just before fatal crash — The Sun

THIS is the horrifying moment a drunk driver laughed as her passengers begged her to slow down just before a fatal crash.

apple.news

And another one. Only 8 years for killing somebody.

 

[Stat Brother]

 

[Stat Brother]

I like the succinct cut of Mr Tranter's jib

 

[Stat Brother]

The little girl hit on a pedestrian crossing a couple of days after the 2 little girls were run over in Wimbledon has now died from her injuries.

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/crime/nine-year-old-girl-killed-by-car-while-out-in-yorkshire-with-her-family-is-named-as-school-pays-tribute-4241442

The sooner we end this war on cars the happier I'll be - what is wrong with people.

 

[Stat Brother]

The message is finally getting through

Rida Kazem: 'Show-off' killer driver has sentence increased

Rida Kazem was speeding at 110mph before losing control of his car, crashing and killing a woman.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[jcdenton08]

The message is finally getting through

Rida Kazem: 'Show-off' killer driver has sentence increased

Rida Kazem was speeding at 110mph before losing control of his car, crashing and killing a woman.

www.bbc.co.uk

Good, but still a touch lenient for me. Horrible case.

 

[Weststander]

Another killing w@nker, but this time a 17 year sentence.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cxe2j8x222go

It would bring back the innocents, but some justice.

 

[kevo]

People like that should never be allowed to drive or own a car ever again

This is what I don't understand about these sentences. Even in the most horrific cases, they are only banned from driving or owning a car for a relatively short time. Why not ban them for life or at least for decades? It doesn't cost the state anything and would mean they will still be paying for it in a way for the rest of their lives, even after their jail sentence ends.

 

[Weststander]

This time a 12 year old slain. Were his parents tears for the child and her family?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...l-12-parents-drinking-driver-dead-jailed.html

 

[Wardy's twin]

This time a 12 year old slain. Were his parents tears for the child and her family?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...l-12-parents-drinking-driver-dead-jailed.html

no where near enough... if you spent that much on booze then how can't you afford a taxi. Was the father charged with anything, i couldn't see it in the article.

 

[chip]

I was a few cars behind a fatal crash on the way back from the game on Friday: https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/24763469.saints-fans-involved-fatal-crash-saints-v-brighton/

There were a couple of Southampton coaches just behind the crash site. I don't know if drink was involved, but it's hard to imagine how that accident happened.