Seat For Life (50 years)

[jezzer]

Cant see the validity of it really, pay 500 qd for the right to sell your seat to someone which if youre a stalwart supporter you are never gonna do anyway and 500 qd is steep beyond belief with no other discernable benefit attached.

 

[Beach Hut]

In the small print it says the PSL also entitles you to transfer individual match tickets. Does this mean without a PSL this is not allowed, and the only way to have friends occasionally use a season ticket is to have a PSL??

I think that needs to clarified as surely if you cannot make a game you can transfer the ticket to someone else or only if you have PSL ?

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Sounds like a bit of a con to me. If you are paying by direct debit and it keeps on rolling each month, your not going to lose your seat. If you snuff it and another family member or friend wants it, just keep paying the direct debit from a different account.

DD, nah, cash on the nose

 

[clippedgull]

I think that needs to clarified as surely if you cannot make a game you can transfer the ticket to someone else or only if you have PSL ?

I'm sure I have answered this before!

Anyway, with or without a PSL tickets can be transferred for an admin fee. Obviously if you trust the person concerned with your smart card the admin fee can be bypassed.

 

[Beach Hut]

I'm sure I have answered this before!

Anyway, with or without a PSL tickets can be transferred for an admin fee. Obviously if you trust the person concerned with your smart card the admin fee can be bypassed.

Sorry must have missed it, cheers

 

[Guy Fawkes]

Originally Posted by Tom Hark, Preston Park
Surprised that nobody seems to have picked up on the 'trading' aspect of the PSL. The pack mentions that the PSLs can be bought and sold on a dedicated website page. On the illustration page they show asking prices ranging from £1250 thru £5700. So if you buy a PSL for £495, and it lasts for 50 years, at some point when the Albion are enjoying success at levels we can only currently dream of, then there may well be an active market in the PSLs as a financial instrument in their own right. If we do well, they'll attract a premium. If we don't do well, you'll be able to pick one up on the cheap. And the club makes money (7.5% or £50 whichever is greater) on every transaction. Not much different from trading in pork belly futures. Well worth a punt IMHO - if you have that kind of cash sloshing about in your current account.

I think this is what its all about, basically if we are doing well and competing in the premiership / upper championship there could well be a waiting list for Season tickets, this is when your PSL could become worthwhile (providing you are willing to sell of course).

It is a way for someone that isn't a Season ticket holder and wanting one without joining a 'potentially' long waiting list to pick one up providing they are willing to pay for it on the PSL market and also gives PSL holders a chance to gamble on these and maybe make some money from this too as well as providing extra funds for the club. It isn't just about being able to pass tickets onto friends or family or thats my understanding

It is something some of the PL and champioship clubs have introduced and it would be interesting to see if they have proved worthwhile investments and how much they are being traded for.

 

[Beach Hut]

The other question is presumably this is not a one off that has to be done at the time of purchase and that you have the option to buy a PSL at anytime ?

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

It is something some of the PL and champioship clubs have introduced and it would be interesting to see if they have proved worthwhile investments and how much they are being traded for.

Indeed. Would be very interesting to see some case studies.

 

[8ace]

The other question is presumably this is not a one off that has to be done at the time of purchase and that you have the option to buy a PSL at anytime ?

If they don't sell well now they be reduced in price at some stage in the future...

 

[Beach Hut]

If they don't sell well now they be reduced in price at some stage in the future...

Possibly but you would hope to be able to do this at anytime ?

Who knows, there might be some small 8aces one day

 

[Guy Fawkes]

Indeed. Would be very interesting to see some case studies.

Seems quite a big thing in the states
For example see the NFL Baltimore ravens PSL trading page here
Baltimore Ravens PSL Marketplace Buy & Sell PSLs Wait List Positions

Prices seem to range from $1500 to $65000

 

[Beach Hut]

Seems quite a big thing in the states
For example see the NFL Baltimore ravens PSL trading page here
Baltimore Ravens PSL Marketplace Buy & Sell PSLs Wait List Positions

Prices seem to range from $1500 to $65000

Hardly a comparison is it.

There are some 30 odd NFL teams in an enormous country whereas there are far more "soccer" teams per person in the UK

 

[8ace]

Possibly but you would hope to be able to do this at anytime ?

Who knows, there might be some small 8aces one day

Never considered that!

 

[Guy Fawkes]

I would imagine that there is potentially excess demand for Season tickets at Falmer for some areas of the ground like the North Stand or on the half way line, if we are doing well and someone doesn't want to renew any more (for whatever reason) if they had a PSL they could trade the rights for that seat and maybe make a decent profit but its a gamble

 

[Beach Hut]

Arsenal Ticket Exchange | Tickets | Arsenal.com

This is what we need for when a season ticket holder cannot go to a game if away

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

I would imagine that there is potentially excess demand for Season tickets at Falmer for some areas of the ground like the North Stand or on the half way line, if we are doing well and someone doesn't want to renew any more (for whatever reason) if they had a PSL they could trade the rights for that seat and maybe make a decent profit but its a gamble

I'm thinking that is how the club are thinking.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

Hardly a comparison is it.

There are some 30 odd NFL teams in an enormous country whereas there are far more "soccer" teams per person in the UK

It wasn't supposed to be a true comparison but a rough idea how it would work, I have yet to find an example for an English club

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

It wasn't supposed to be a true comparison but a rough idea how it would work, I have yet to find an example for an English club

Didn't West Ham do a Seat Licence thing?

 

[Beach Hut]

It wasn't supposed to be a true comparison but a rough idea how it would work, I have yet to find an example for an English club

Funnily enough nor have I, do you think we are the first to do this ?

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Funnily enough nor have I, do you think we are the first to do this ?

Box bumph says 'They [PSL] are becoming extremely popular in football, and have been adopted by clubs across Europe in recent years, including a number of Premier League and Championship clubs'.