Season ticket sales update - latest total

[Albion Dan]

Brighton have sold more than 23,000 tickets for the club’s Amex stadium next season as demand for continues to defy expectation.

I'm amazed you dont get fired with proof reading like that. That is embarrasing for a paper like The Herald.

 

[saafend_seagull]

Should have 20,700 there everygame including the STH no shows (~10%) + away support.

Should average 22,500 easy! When was the last time Palace did that?

 

[gazingdown]

You're forgetting the pay per game home fans! that'll put it to about 23/24k.

 

[Gwylan]

I'm afraid it is just a sign of the times. You look at websites like BBC News, and there is bad spelling and grammar in abundance. You used to need a degree to get a journalism job,

This just isn't true. 40 years ago very few journalists would have got a degree, you'd have left school at 16 and worked your up by doing on-the-job training with release for your NCTJ qualification.

And I don't really see the BBC as being one of the sites renowned for bad spelling. The Argus on the other hand ....

Are you saying there is a conscious decision to use less than standard written English when writing content for the website? I find that bemusing to say the least.

Companies are no longer using sub-editors (the people who correct spelling, grammar etc). The Argus got rid of its subs desk and you can see the result. For some reason, websites employ even fewer subs. There's not a conscious decision to use less than standard English but there is a conscious decision to have fewer pairs of eyes looking at copy.

Also, as far as standards of candidates who are getting jobs, I know someone who got a job as a trainee reporter on a weekly newspaper on about £12k a year and he had to beat 211 other candidates to get it. Anyone without a degree or high scoring NTCJ marks did not even get an interview.

I'm always a bit bemused when I see remarks like this. I've been looking for a junior reporter for four months. We're a decent company, we're offering £20k as a starting salary and got about 20 applications.

 

[The Large One]

Companies are no longer using sub-editors (the people who correct spelling, grammar etc). The Argus got rid of its subs desk and you can see the result. For some reason, websites employ even fewer subs. There's not a conscious decision to use less than standard English but there is a conscious decision to have fewer pairs of eyes looking at copy.

Tut, tut.

The Argus has no subs, and websites have even fewer?

 

[Brighton Breezy]

Are you saying there is a conscious decision to use less than standard written English when writing content for the website? I find that bemusing to say the least. Shirley there is only one 'written English', that should be used across all media? Saying that, there is the urban myth that The Sun is written so a thirteen year old can understand it!?

Not a conscious decision, no. But I suppose it would perhaps be better described as more freedom. The Albion coverage is not meant to rival The Argus or the BBC etc, more provide snippets for local readers who have an interest in the club. For that reason they are perhaps less formal than the traditional news coverage.

 

[Martinf]

Anyway, back to the thread. Absolutely stunning that we have 23,000 season ticket holders. Let's be honest, if anyone had said this was going to happen a few years ago we would have had them taken off to the funny farm.

 

[Not Andy Naylor]

The Argus has no subs?

I believe the Argus is now subbed in Southampton. It got rid of the subbing operation in Brighton.

A lot of newspaper websites are put together by interns, work experience kids and graduate trainees. And many of them neither know nor care about punctuation or grammar.

 

[The Large One]

I believe the Argus is now subbed in Southampton. It got rid of the subbing operation in Brighton.

I know that. That's not the point I'm making.

How can you have fewer than no subs?

 

[Brighton Breezy]

This just isn't true. 40 years ago very few journalists would have got a degree, you'd have left school at 16 and worked your up by doing on-the-job training with release for your NCTJ qualification.

And I don't really see the BBC as being one of the sites renowned for bad spelling. The Argus on the other hand ....

Companies are no longer using sub-editors (the people who correct spelling, grammar etc). The Argus got rid of its subs desk and you can see the result. For some reason, websites employ even fewer subs. There's not a conscious decision to use less than standard English but there is a conscious decision to have fewer pairs of eyes looking at copy.

I'm always a bit bemused when I see remarks like this. I've been looking for a junior reporter for four months. We're a decent company, we're offering £20k as a starting salary and got about 20 applications.

I think you have hit the nail on the head. Less staff = less pairs of eyes and less time for journalists to look over their own work because of additional demands. Certainly something a lot of journalists I know say, whether they are working on a national tabloid, or a local weekly.

Also, still speaking in general rather than about where I work, I know that for many websites (the likes of Sky, BBC etc) the main pressure is on being first with breaking news. The higher up the media chain, the more important it is to get copy done and dusted quickly and get online. Not something we suffer from so much where I work as there is no direct rival, but you can imagine the likes of Sky News getting a massive telling off if they are late uploading a story everyone else has.

There have always been typos and the odd spelling or grammar mistake in journalism. It is just the web is far more immediate and with less checks in place to catch them before it goes live. I think, for example, the Argus had Eastbourne as Easbourne in a headline earlier this week. When you are working flat out, it is easily done.

Where do you advertise your job? I know demand for trainee jobs can depend hugely on whether the universities and NCTJ courses have just chucked out or not.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

Anyway, back to the thread. Absolutely stunning that we have 23,000 season ticket holders. Let's be honest, if anyone had said this was going to happen a few years ago we would have had them taken off to the funny farm.

Exactly. Great news. I believe the club expects to sell the majority of those left, if not all of them.

Oh, and I think someone mentioned earlier about us having less than 19,000 season tickets last season. I put that because that was the figure I was given by the Albion this afternoon.

As Martinf so rightly says, who would have thought we would see our season ticket sales go up from the 5,000 mark at Withdean to almost five times that figure in the space of just one full season at The Amex.

 

[Diego Napier]

Thing is, "Can I get" isn't completely incorrect, is it? They don't know whether Costa has sold out or not. It's an Americanism sure, but not incorrect.

If someone said "Can I HAVE a coffee?", the server could equally come back with; "I don't know, have you got the money for one?"

Only if the server was rude or stupid and would be likely to lose his job!

It's an Americanism and incorrect:

Requester - "Can I HAVE a coffee please"
Server - "Certainly, I'll GET one for you"

 

[Elvis]

in the words of Wayne

" Build it, and they will come! "

 

[Brighton Breezy]

I think Tony Bloom and the club in general deserve huge credit for having the balls to go ahead with the expansion and initial build with faith in the team's ability to pull in the crowds. Must have been days when they were sweating we would sell enough season tickets to break even etc early on.

 

[banjo]

Fantastic.

 

[Superphil]

Only if the server was rude or stupid and would be likely to lose his job!

It's an Americanism and incorrect:

Requester - "Can I HAVE a coffee please"
Server - "Certainly, I'll GET one for you"

Surely it is "MAY I have a coffee?"

If you ask "CAN I have a coffee?" then the answer could be any of:

"I don't know, can you?"
"probably"
"maybe"
"I don't know you well enough to know whether you CAN have a coffee"

So correctly, assuming you want a coffee, the question should be, "MAY I have a coffee?"

 

[Diego Napier]

Surely it is "MAY I have a coffee?"

If you ask "CAN I have a coffee?" then the answer could be any of:

"I don't know, can you?"
"probably"
"maybe"
"I don't know you well enough to know whether you CAN have a coffee"

So correctly, assuming you want a coffee, the question should be, "MAY I have a coffee?"

You win

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[mlg57]

I think Tony Bloom and the club in general deserve huge credit for having the balls to go ahead with the expansion and initial build with faith in the team's ability to pull in the crowds. Must have been days when they were sweating we would sell enough season tickets to break even etc early on.

But are we breaking even, I thought we had no money?? Or is that just a ploy to keep us quiet?

 

[brightn'ove]

So exactly how accurate is that reporting? I didn't think we've reached the 23000 mark yet? Maybe I'm wrong but I get the feeling this is just more lazy journalism (and the use of flogged doesn't exactly inspie confidence in the journo! Lol)

avatar theft!

 

[Gary Gurr]

first time i've ever seen the word "flogged" used in a newspaper in the context of sales!

Sadly the quality of our local paper!