[News] Say your goodbyes to free health care...

[pastafarian]

There's no possibly about it, it's already cost us more than our total 47 years worth of contributions put together and we haven't even left yet

https://fullfact.org/europe/online-cost-brexit-net-contributions/

Claim
One estimate of the “economic cost” of Brexit, £130 billion, now exceeds what we’ve paid in to the EU over 47 years.


While it’s difficult to put a single, definitive figure on the economic impact of Brexit, these claims don’t currently add up. They are based on figures which actually show the UK’s net contributions are higher than an estimated economic cost so far
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Other reports have made a more defensible claim: that Brexit will “have soon cost” or “is set to cost” the UK more than 47 years of payments to the EU budget. But these still depend on accepting an uncertain estimate for the cost of Brexit so far, plus even more uncertain estimates of the future cost. And even then, the figure at the end of 2020 is still slightly lower.



Is this the new Brexit thread for the main board?

 

[Pavilionaire]

I like your posts, I’m sure you’re right about some aspects here.

But especially post covid, I believe that we won’t become an economy with lower taxes. Taxes across the board will increase, for higher earners in the main. The newly enlarged national debt requires servicing and over time part repaid.

I’ve followed the analyses of economists (avoiding the tedious bias of those who work for left and right wing think tanks), and they’re pretty much in unison that taxation must increase and will increase. That’s once the economy’s securely growing post covid.

I agree that it would make sense for personal taxes to increase, however I see lower corporate taxes happening. He needs to keep foreign investors here, we won't be part of the EU and so I can see him cutting corporation tax significantly, possibly VAT, to avoid a flight of capital and attract inward investment. It worked for Singapore, it worked for Ireland, it will piss off the EU and work with the narrative Johnson will be peddling.

 

[Weststander]

I agree that it would make sense for personal taxes to increase, however I see lower corporate taxes happening. He needs to keep foreign investors here, we won't be part of the EU and so I can see him cutting corporation tax significantly, possibly VAT, to avoid a flight of capital and attract inward investment. It worked for Singapore, it worked for Ireland, it will piss off the EU and work with the narrative Johnson will be peddling.

The Netherlands and Luxembourg also play the same corporation tax game as Ireland.

 

[Randy McNob]

https://fullfact.org/europe/online-cost-brexit-net-contributions/

Claim
One estimate of the “economic cost” of Brexit, £130 billion, now exceeds what we’ve paid in to the EU over 47 years.


While it’s difficult to put a single, definitive figure on the economic impact of Brexit, these claims don’t currently add up. They are based on figures which actually show the UK’s net contributions are higher than an estimated economic cost so far
.
Other reports have made a more defensible claim: that Brexit will “have soon cost” or “is set to cost” the UK more than 47 years of payments to the EU budget. But these still depend on accepting an uncertain estimate for the cost of Brexit so far, plus even more uncertain estimates of the future cost. And even then, the figure at the end of 2020 is still slightly lower.



Is this the new Brexit thread for the main board?

so, actually that number does stand up to scrutiny factoring in a little grey area?

I think the general point being made regarding cost of Brexit since 2016 v total contribitions is valid

 

[AlastairWatts]

Insurances are ok in the right hands. Many insurers find get out clauses, and in the USA many people are bankrupted due to hospital bills.
My cousin's daughter died of liver cancer in her 40s because the insurance company refused to pay out, and she couldn't afford the treatment.

Whilst that's all very sad, medical treatment is not, surely, a guarantee of success?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Whilst that's all very sad, medical treatment is not, surely, a guarantee of success?

Liver cancer is one of the more treatable conditions.

 

[portslade seagull]

In another betrayal by the Conservative government they have voted down a clause protecting the NHS from being on the table in any future trade negotiations, amongst other clauses that would have protected our NHS.

Another concern that was written off as “project fear” has now come to pass.

If you ain’t worried now, you ain’t paying attention.


https://evolvepolitics.com/breaking...UQcQUlSrldnnv7LskC2vJP4MadjyKwpsVqNwQlb1ITa8o

Do we not pay for prescriptions and Dental health already or am I missing something

 

[The Clamp]

Do we not pay for prescriptions and Dental health already or am I missing something

Many do. Many don't. If you can't afford a prescription or dental treatment the welfare state will pick up the bill and ensure you get what you need.

 

[portslade seagull]

Many do. Many don't. If you can't afford a prescription or dental treatment the welfare state will pick up the bill and ensure you get what you need.

All I'm stating is by stealth these have gradually been increasing in price through successive governments

 

[The Clamp]

All I'm stating is by stealth these have gradually been increasing in price through successive governments

Were you? That's not what you wrote.

Anyway, as I said, the point is; If you cannot afford it, the welfare state will step in and ensure you get the treatment you need. For now.....