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[Football] Saudis withdraw from Newcastle deal



ac gull

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Jul 7, 2003
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Plus the £40m striker they signed last year didn't exactly score 25 more PL goals than say Connolly either

Money spent ain't a guarantee of success - see Everton and West Ham
 




drew

Drew
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Oct 3, 2006
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Christ the Premier League have played this well. Stuck in a situation where they'll piss off basically everybody (Qatar, Amnesty, the established elite clubs, etc.) if they accept but can't find a valid reason not to in their own rules so bog it down with bureaucratic process leading to the Saudi's buggering off.

I'm sure Amanda Staveley will be back for a third time as part of a new consortium. Hopefully, Fat Mike will have a fire sale in the meantime.

But they did have a valid reason and that was the piracy by BeoutQ or the rights to PL matches belonging to Bein Sport. They were told it had to stop and the Saudis won't so they don't get their hands on Newcastle.
 


blue-shifted

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Feb 20, 2004
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Christ the Premier League have played this well. Stuck in a situation where they'll piss off basically everybody (Qatar, Amnesty, the established elite clubs, etc.) if they accept but can't find a valid reason not to in their own rules so bog it down with bureaucratic process leading to the Saudi's buggering off.

I'm sure Amanda Staveley will be back for a third time as part of a new consortium. Hopefully, Fat Mike will have a fire sale in the meantime.

Yes mate, they had a very unlikely opportunity to get out of this mess and by hook or by crook they found it. Champagne corks flying in that office tonight
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Another "we have lots of fans so we deserve success' club.

Don't get me wrong: I rather like the city and role part the club plays in it. I can't think of any other place which felt like such a football city as when I went up there. Most big cities have more than one team, so there's divided loyalties, or the ground is away from the centre like Liverpool/ Everton. Walking around the centre of Newcastle on match day, with the stadium towering over it all, and thousands of people in their black & white shirts, felt quite unique, and I thought it was great.

But my god do they have a sense of entitlement. They've won **** all in sixty odd years yet seem to think the world owes them a trophy. And the media loves to bang on about what great fans they are- if Ashley is that bad, why do they not actually do anything meaningful about him? All they do is moan on social media about how hard done by they are because they're mid table in the Premier League. What would Sunderland give for that? Or Exeter, or Crawley or Bradford City? He's not asset stripping the place: he just can't or won't spend a fortune. It's called living within your means. Like most clubs do. I don't see Norwich fans screaming at Delia for not funding the purchase of a £60m striker.

With multi £Billionaires floating around, that raises the hopes of the many fanbases of their clubs being transformed.

Chelsea were completely insignificant for a generation as far as honours were concerned until Bates/Harding went for the Hoddle/Vialli/Gullit spending, then Abramovich blew virtually everyone else out of the water with a £1B investment in players fees and wages. ManC were many peoples favourite second club, with just a couple of LC’s in my football watching lifetime, until Mansour’s petro dollars bought success. Everton fans currently hope that the insane combined wealth of Usmanov and Moshiri allows a colossal player spending spree to match Citeh, they believe that CV19 and Citeh beating UEFA has opened the doors for anything goes. On villatalk their fans are saying the same thing, fck FFP, anything goes now, spend, spend, spend. The supporters come across as arrogant and entitled.

In the next few years it wouldn’t surprise me if, some of; Leeds, Newcastle, Massive, West Ham and Derby get a new billionaire owner ready to go spending.

Chelsea, PSG and Citeh have provided the also-rans to overnight European giants blueprint.
 








Saltydog

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Aug 29, 2011
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I feel sorry for their fans. True and respectful. I recall when we were promoted to the old Division One they were our last match of the season at St James Park and we won the match and the team did a lap of honour where the Geordies stood and applauded them. Still respect them for that. Even had one ask to swap colours outside who was big enough to step on me! Sympathy from me lads.

But as for Mike Ashley - ooops that’s a shame Mike......!!
 


blue-shifted

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Feb 20, 2004
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With multi £Billionaires floating around, that raises the hopes of the many fanbases of their clubs being transformed.

Chelsea were completely insignificant for a generation as far as honours were concerned until Bates/Harding went for the Hoddle/Vialli/Gullit spending, then Abramovich blew virtually everyone else out of the water with a £1B investment in players fees and wages. ManC were many peoples favourite second club, with just a couple of LC’s in my football watching lifetime, until Mansour’s petro dollars bought success. Everton fans currently hope that the insane combined wealth of Usmanov and Moshiri allows a colossal player spending spree to match Citeh, they believe that CV19 and Citeh beating UEFA has opened the doors for anything goes. On villatalk their fans are saying the same thing, fck FFP, anything goes now, spend, spend, spend. The supporters come across as arrogant and entitled.

In the next few years it wouldn’t surprise me if, some of; Leeds, Newcastle, Massive, West Ham and Derby get a new billionaire owner ready to go spending.

Chelsea, PSG and Citeh have provided the also-rans to overnight European giants blueprint.

What gets me is that every fan wants the chairman to buy a decent player or two I get that ... but wanting success so much that you're prepared to turn a blind eye to the owners of your club being responsible for massive human rights abuses and tens of thousands of deaths ... that shows that football supporters have become truly blind.

I followed the Albion home and away through the darkest times of the 90s and all through the rebuilding years after. That's fine, I can accept us being s***. But what I can't accept is that the club I support contradicts my values. That's the one thing that could make me jack this whole crazy lifelong love affair I seem to have in.
 




ozzygull

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Oct 6, 2003
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Reading
What gets me is that every fan wants the chairman to buy a decent player or two I get that ... but wanting success so much that you're prepared to turn a blind eye to the owners of your club being responsible for massive human rights abuses and tens of thousands of deaths ... that shows that football supporters have become truly blind.

I followed the Albion home and away through the darkest times of the 90s and all through the rebuilding years after. That's fine, I can accept us being s***. But what I can't accept is that the club I support contradicts my values. That's the one thing that could make me jack this whole crazy lifelong love affair I seem to have in.

Exactly! :thumbsup:
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Withdean area
What gets me is that every fan wants the chairman to buy a decent player or two I get that ... but wanting success so much that you're prepared to turn a blind eye to the owners of your club being responsible for massive human rights abuses and tens of thousands of deaths ... that shows that football supporters have become truly blind.

I followed the Albion home and away through the darkest times of the 90s and all through the rebuilding years after. That's fine, I can accept us being s***. But what I can't accept is that the club I support contradicts my values. That's the one thing that could make me jack this whole crazy lifelong love affair I seem to have in.

Chelsea, PSG and Citeh opened the door for anything goes. No qualms about where the money’s come from, the circles the owner mixes in. Sadly the genie’s out of the bottle. The one chink of light, I love the way the PL’s questions/demands sent the Saudi blood money packing.

If we end up floating between the top two divisions over the next few decades, never with a true chance of silverware, but in the safe hands of the Bloom family, that’s fine by me.

Villa and Everton embarking on more financial doping, won’t guarantee anything. Too many other clubs are playing the same game, not to mention the other clubs with huge legit income.
 


spongy

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Aug 7, 2011
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If they start the next season with nothing sorted, I'd fancy them to be in the relegation scrap. Up to the lockdown (in my opinion) they were the spawniest of all the teams in the Prem; they hardly seemed to play well in any game, yet somehow fluked wins here and there.

Without the cash investment, and the turmoil that would create, I'd expect them to struggle.

To be fair we did OK this season but I'd have liked to have "spawned" as many wins as they have. Pretty football is all well and good but points win prizes (or guaranteed PL football)
 




METALMICKY

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Jan 30, 2004
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In just pure football terms I great result for us. Ashley won't splash the cash which means they are one more club that could be in the relegation scrap with us. Sad to admit but we have to admit it.
 


Not Andy Naylor

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Dec 12, 2007
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I feel sorry for their fans. True and respectful. I recall when we were promoted to the old Division One they were our last match of the season at St James Park and we won the match and the team did a lap of honour where the Geordies stood and applauded them. Still respect them for that. Even had one ask to swap colours outside who was big enough to step on me! Sympathy from me lads.

But as for Mike Ashley - ooops that’s a shame Mike......!!

Well, that was at least partly because us winning helped prevent Sunderland from going up.
 


drew

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Oct 3, 2006
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I feel sorry for their fans. True and respectful. I recall when we were promoted to the old Division One they were our last match of the season at St James Park and we won the match and the team did a lap of honour where the Geordies stood and applauded them. Still respect them for that. Even had one ask to swap colours outside who was big enough to step on me! Sympathy from me lads.

But as for Mike Ashley - ooops that’s a shame Mike......!!

They were applauding because our promotion prevented Sunderland going up.
 






blue-shifted

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Feb 20, 2004
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Taken from an Article by Jonathon Liew

"to the abuse sent by some Newcastle fans to the fiancee of the late Jamal Khashoggi"

I never knew that happened.... WTF?

They can finish bottom as far as i'm concerned now and it would be richly deserved
 


A1X

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Man this is the worst thing to happen to Newcastle since Gazza covered "Fog On The Tyne"
 


dangull

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Feb 24, 2013
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A European super league will change the whole dynamics of football. I would almost welcome it, as it would give clubs like Notts Forest, Leicester, Ipswich, Luton and dare i say it Brighton a chance to win some honours, like the 70s 80's era.
 




drew

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A European super league will change the whole dynamics of football. I would almost welcome it, as it would give clubs like Notts Forest, Leicester, Ipswich, Luton and dare i say it Brighton a chance to win some honours, like the 70s 80's era.

But it will be insignificant if the big clubs from England aren't in it. Bit like winning the Championship and being given the trophy that used to be for the first Division prior to the premier league. Also a European super league will see most of the tv money disappear as it will follow the super league rather than our weakened premier league.
 


Birdie Boy

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Jun 17, 2011
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Every single time around transfer window time, there's a loads of money firm coming in to buy them. Then it all falls through. Gutted for them. [emoji3]
 


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