Ike and Tina Burner
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- Mar 22, 2019
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We should only sell him with a by back to avoid another Viktor Gyökeres situation.
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[Albion] Sarmiento
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albionfan37
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Yes you’ve missed someone
Some cold hard facts. If a player isn't good enough to get game time, his value will only decline over time.
Getting good value from selling good players is important, but not at the cost of winning games.
We have too many players with more potentially arriving. Time to break some eggs to make the omelette.
Getting good value from selling good players is important, but not at the cost of winning games.
We have too many players with more potentially arriving. Time to break some eggs to make the omelette.
Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo
I believe in Joe Hendry
- Oct 4, 2003
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Im sure it was mentioned on here we had some sort of buy back clause on Gyokeres, he rejected the offer we made him and joined Sporting.
A buy back is only any use if the player wants to rejoin us. They can’t be forced to make the move.
nwgull
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Why? He had two Championship loans last season and was unable to break into the regular starting 11 for either.
I'm sure it can. It (as in all contracts) is what's in the small print that we put in.
A good loan might improve his value - how long is he contracted to us? Maybe in a decent league abroad, as he wasn't hugely successful in the Championship, although he did OK at Ipswich.
Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo
I believe in Joe Hendry
- Oct 4, 2003
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The buy back clause, wether it be first option or match best offer are agreed between the two clubs when agreeing a transfer.
The player will still retain their freedom of choice when it comes to accepting or rejecting a contract offer to return to their old club, if said club, decides to exercise the clause. Anything else would be against employment law in pretty much every country in the world.
OK, fair enough - the clubs can agree what they like, but the player can refuse an offer. Like several might do if they're on Chelsea wages for the next five or six years!
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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Another way of looking at it is:
1. With the ability to make 5 substitutions all 8 may could - in theory - play in every single game.
2. That still leaves one sub spare.
3. One of the 8 is bound to be injured / suspended / rested / on international duty / out of form, freeing up a space for Sarmiento.
We have to realise that 5 subs is a massive deal. Squads like Man City never carry a dodgy player that they have to use. For all the talent we have there are times when we still have to use a Veltman, Webster or a Milner.
I’d like to think that a Premier League player’s Agent, charging hundreds of thousands of pounds, would probably read the small print.
Yes, they probably should - and would. That one hasn't been written yet though!
It is absolutely insane that we seem to have outgrown players like Jeremy Sarmiento.
I’ve been going since 1989. I’m trying to think about how many seasons JS wouldn’t have been the first name on the team sheet in that time. Possibly for the two seasons we had Zamora, the first tim around? Where he would have been the 2nd name on the team sheet. Apart from that, there is last season, and probably the season before. That’s it. And now we’re too good for him.
It’s absolutely mental.
I’ve been going since 1989. I’m trying to think about how many seasons JS wouldn’t have been the first name on the team sheet in that time. Possibly for the two seasons we had Zamora, the first tim around? Where he would have been the 2nd name on the team sheet. Apart from that, there is last season, and probably the season before. That’s it. And now we’re too good for him.
It’s absolutely mental.
This with bells on
Pliny the Gull
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- Mar 4, 2024
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Agree. Very good point.
Gykores. Undav. Who knows Fati ?
Mancgull
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Indeed. How could I miss Solly, and Gruda of course.
I'm afraid I agree. People's fondness of him has always seemed more emotional al than evidence based. I totally get it. I do it all the time. Get enthralled to a player based on potential and how I imagine them. But in all the games I've seen him he's technically decent but way off our squad. I wonder be surprised to see him settle at championship level.
Agree. Runs around a lot and presses well (Fab probably likes that) but his decision making always seems suspect and final ball not great. The fact he couldn’t get regular starts in his championship loans tells us all we need to know really
One of those players I really wanted to see develop and succeed with loads of potential but who maybe doesn't play at the standard we now expect.
Was a shoe in for the squad three weeks ago, but now looks very surplus to requirements.
Was a shoe in for the squad three weeks ago, but now looks very surplus to requirements.
Really like the lad but he is a level off the other attacking players we now have. I don’t see the point in loaning him again as I don’t think he will ever become a first team player for us.
If we can get somewhere between £5m and £10m with a sell on clause, more than happy for him to go.
If we can get somewhere between £5m and £10m with a sell on clause, more than happy for him to go.