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[Albion] Sam Jewell







dazzer6666

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No matter how much contingency you build in to your succession planning, eventually, there is bound to be a detrimental effect on the efficiency of our scouting and recruitment strategies..... added to which, gradually, all our little unique secrets and processes are being spread out there amongst the more powerful money teams.... our little edge is likely to be diluted somewhat.
Not always. You can also look at any departure as an opportunity to upgrade - and when hiring that should ideally be the aim. There might be a short-term impact of departures but if the hiring of replacements is effective then that’s all it should be.
 


Surf's Up

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There's a real feeding frenzy going on at the moment around our staff, both on and particularly off the field. It's totally unprecedented and I suspect it will run out of steam, to our detriment, when the pace with which we can recruit is outstripped by the pace of people leaving.
 


Nicks

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My thought too.
When someone is a potential leaver then it certainly focuses you on succession planning, which we are already good at.
The fact that he’s been put on Gardening leave shows that we are protecting our preparation work for the summer window. Hopefully it’s for 6 months to take us through to the end of August.
Apparently on Gardening leave until November
 










Eric Youngs Contact Lens

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Dec 9, 2020
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I guess, regardless of how easy the data is to assemble or leak, the data is the property of the Club not the individual and relatively easy to track if it has been downloaded or shared elsewhere, so pretty sure there is no immediate haemorrhaging of data..
 




Bozza

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I accept the inevitability of this. But it does make you wonder if there's one of them, a single one of the staff below, say, Bloom and Barber (and maybe not even Barber) who would see the positives in staying where they are and trying to win something with Brighton? The culture of the club, the ownership model, all the stuff that Chelsea simply can't buy from us no matter how much money they throw at it - is that worth anything to any one of them?

Or are they so blinded by the allure of the 'big boys' that they've already forgotten what happened to Potter, to Cucurella et al?

(And no, I don't blame them or assign any bitterness toward them - nothing personal in this. They have their own careers and families to think about. It's a genuine thought.)
I think it's a bit simpler than that.

They are people doing a job, working on their career and in most cases trying to provide for, and support, a family.

If a job you perceive to be better and/or paying more comes along, it will be considered, in just the same way as any of us working in non-football industries will. And, if, once things have been weighed up, the new job appears to be beneficial, you'll make the move.

We poached Mike Cave from Fulham only a couple of years ago when, presumably, Cave decided we were a better long-term bet for him than Fulham were. Sam Jewell joined us from Swindon, probably for the same reasons.
 


albionalba

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As PB has always emphasised there is always contingency planning so I'm sure there will be a plan. I think we're also stacking up some good examples of zero(ish) to hero from acquisitions that equip us well for competitive situations and players / agents deciding on the best path to individual PL recognition (alongside the money of course....)
 


Lurchy

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I'd imagine his successor may well be in the club already. Mike Cave is already stepping in similar to David Weir when Ashworth left. When we poached him from Fulham (people forget that we hire people from other clubs too) you'd like to assume that it was with some view on career progression being a factor.
Danny Hoyle who we took from Norwich last season will likely be our main South American specialist (assuming he’s not that already) given his previous signings at his prior club.
 




jcdenton08

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Or are they so blinded by the allure of the 'big boys' that they've already forgotten what happened to Potter, to Cucurella et al?
Well, the reality is that both Cucurella and Potter became overnight multimillionaires by leaving us for Chelsea, so I can absolutely see why people would move if money was a big motivator.

Both Cucurella and Potter could in theory now join a “passion project”, rebuild their reps and go again.

It’s simply a case of staff/players moving to the highest possible status jobs, on the highest possible pay when their stock is at its highest.

If our constant recruitment of brilliant staff and players wasn’t so good, nobody would want them off us. Meaning we wouldn’t get the benefit of their skills and the rewards it all translates to on the pitch and in the bank.
 


raymondo

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I hope that much of the pursuit and poaching of our staff ends up as did Dyche's obsessive, and in the end useless for them, purchase of Dale Stephens (Stevens?).
 


Hamilton

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I think it's a bit simpler than that.

They are people doing a job, working on their career and in most cases trying to provide for, and support, a family.

If a job you perceive to be better and/or paying more comes along, it will be considered, in just the same way as any of us working in non-football industries will. And, if, once things have been weighed up, the new job appears to be beneficial, you'll make the move.

We poached Mike Cave from Fulham only a couple of years ago when, presumably, Cave decided we were a better long-term bet for him than Fulham were. Sam Jewell joined us from Swindon, probably for the same reasons.
Sadly, this.

If you're earning £100k* a year and someone offers you £400k a year then you're going to take it, even if you only think it will last a couple of years.

*this is purely illustrative.
 




jcdenton08

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There's a real feeding frenzy going on at the moment around our staff, both on and particularly off the field. It's totally unprecedented and I suspect it will run out of steam, to our detriment, when the pace with which we can recruit is outstripped by the pace of people leaving.
I hope it continues because it means they and the club are doing well.
 




Herne Hill Seagull

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I think it's a bit simpler than that.

They are people doing a job, working on their career and in most cases trying to provide for, and support a family.

If a job you perceive to be better and/or paying more comes along, it will be considered, in just the same way as any of us working in non-football industries will. And, if, once things have been weighed up, the new job appears to be beneficial, you'll make the move.

We poached Mike Cave from Fulham only a couple of years ago when, presumably, Cave decided we were a better long-term bet for him than Fulham were. Sam Jewell joined us from Swindon, presumably for the same reasons.
Of course. People are headhunted in every industry. But at what point do you start to think you're in the right place? I've been in the position myself where I could have gone to bigger outfits for more money, but other considerations including work/life balance, corporate culture etc, and simply being somewhere that I enjoyed working, kept me where I was. In football, of course, the imperatives may be different from the point of view of the 'corporate' objectives but the other considerations are the same.

Would you really, really see Chelsea as a better employment prospect than Brighton right now? Their main attraction seems to be 'we'll give you a shit-load more money to come here, and if it doesn't work out and we bin you in a panic clear-out in a few months, we'll give you a shit-load of money to go away.'
 


trueblue

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Wow. That puts him in a difficult position in terms of ‘maintaining relationships’. Good!
Need someone to be out and about in S America solidifying the work already done with key contacts.
How can gardening leave be effective though? I get it with a Premier League manager who loses a massive payout if they take another job - can hardly sit in the dugout pretending to be someone else. But what's the comeback for someone behind the scenes and how does the club stop them passing on all their knowledge in the meantime?
 




trueblue

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Would you really, really see Chelsea as a better employment prospect than Brighton right now? Their main attraction seems to be 'we'll give you a shit-load more money to come here, and if it doesn't work out and we bin you in a panic clear-out in a few months, we'll give you a shit-load of money to go away.'
Most people would find this aspect of the argument quite persuasive.
 




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