I'm not ranting at all. I have experienced terraces and most time they were fine but sometimes they were bloody dangerous.
Merely pointing out that we won't be going back to old days of pure terracing IMHO. the world has moved on.
Would people be willing to pay the same price to stand as they do for a seat in the North Stand
'de-value'safe standing!
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wont look as good for internationals
not reading before they speak
all in all
How eeasily it can be installed in existing stands depends on the rake (slope) of the stand and the tread depth of existing steps.
From a brief measurment at The Amex, I think just adding a half setp along each row would do the trick, subject to fixings and load checks, etc.
i do love my seat, would be gutted to see it ripped out, but then love standing for the atmosphere!
The 5 year old in front of me stands on his seat the whole game .
Would they even need to put that half step in?
Surely they could just bolt the rails on in place of the current seating rails, I guess it would mean keeping the capacity the same but it's still better than what we have now and it wouldn't cost much to install.
Well, that is a monster result in our favour. I'm going to email this thread to Derek Chapman. But I won't tell Richard Hebberd
The capacity of the stand would increase by 1.8 %
Doesn't it say that it would increase capacity by a factor of 1.8?
For every 1,000 seats, you would have space for 1,800 in a safe standing environment.
I think
If standing is so f***ing dangerous, then why are terraces allowed AT ALL ??
I know Hillsborough triggered all this off, but surely it was the number of people that forced their way in, rather than the terraces being unsafe, that caused that awful tragedy?
And the fences caging the fans in
Yes, fair comment, so why not just ban the fences, instead of imposing a blanket ban on terracing?
Indeed. I've been to a game there, and it's like a MUCH better Hillsborough.Dortmund have the best stadium in the world! What a terrace!
The capacity of the stand would increase by 1.8 %
Can you though? I imagine there are possible issues with ingress and egress - are the vomitories numerous and wide enough?
Are there enough toliets and kiosks for the increased capacity?