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(just released) if true, Putins weekend is going from bad to worse.... shame that
My only concern is the main leaders are Islamic extremists.
(just released) if true, Putins weekend is going from bad to worse.... shame that
Did it?We effectively did that to Cologne, Dresden, Leipzig etc. towards the end of WW2. Certainly broke the German spirit.
He said he'd freeze if Ukraine is admitted into NATO, the land that Ukraine currently occupies is protected by article 5 (not occupied land) and that Ukraine will work to return occupied lands via diplomacy later (no ceding).His comments are not the 'Russia can have occupied land' that some will have you believe
85 years...and Russia hasn't changed it's approach. Europe and allies need this memory tattoed on our foreheads. Russia won't change...
From what I've read, and I dont profess to being an expert on Syrian factions, the group thats retaken Allepo were once part of Al Qaeda but have long since broken away and have actually fought Al Qaeda since, they're islamist, but not Al Qaeda/ISIS type death cult types, they're backed by Turkey.My only concern is the main leaders are Islamic extremists.
Indeed. I'm a bit at a loss as to how diplomacy would result in the return of occupied lands . Perhaps most sanctions and confiscated property etc stay in place until Russia agrees?His comments are not the 'Russia can have occupied land' that some will have you believe
And I know for sure that Turkey backs that rebel faction...because they have strongly denied it!From what I've read, and I dont profess to being an expert on Syrian factions, the group thats retaken Allepo were once part of Al Qaeda but have long since broken away and have actually fought Al Qaeda since, they're islamist, but not Al Qaeda/ISIS type death cult types, they're backed by Turkey.
The other group in North YPG/PKK is the Kurdish crowd that US backed, and in main stand against both Assad and Erdoghan.
If that X video is true and the republican guard has initiated a coup against Assad, that will be from within his own security forces.
The rebels are not in Damascus yet.
Putin losing his leverage and his main base in Mediterranean and his main refuelling base for flights to Africa woud be excellent, what happens next re Syria is anyones guess
I read 1 journo today, described Zelensky move as a political masterstroke?Indeed. I'm a bit at a loss as to how diplomacy would result in the return of occupied lands . Perhaps most sanctions and confiscated property etc stay in place until Russia agrees?
I can't see it myself - it all sounds very sensible in some ways...
Indeed. I'm a bit at a loss as to how diplomacy would result in the return of occupied lands
Perhaps most sanctions and confiscated property etc stay in place until Russia agrees?
(just released) if true, Putins weekend is going from bad to worse.... shame that
Yep, it's very smart . I guess I'm musing how things would progress if Putin actually accepted... unlikely though that is.I read 1 journo today, described Zelensky move as a political masterstroke?
He's showing willing to freeze as per Trumps plans, in exchange for iron clad security protections (which isnt unreasonable considering Budapest Memorandum was totally ignored), and he's doing so, knowing that Putin, obsessesed with Ukraines total capitualtion can never accept this, which makes Zelensky the peacemaker and Putin the very obvious block to peace.
Agrees to give back the lands. I expect Putin could be dead by then.I'm hoping Zelenskyy is mainly offering this to look willing (as Trump will want Ukraine to offer something), but either in the knowledge Russia would refuse, or with the condition that sanctions would remain. If sanctions remained, Russia would have to give the land back eventually.
Agrees what?
Agrees to give back the lands. I expect Putin could be dead by then.
I can tell you for certain in Crimea and now in increasing measure in Mariupol, they already have and are ethnically cleansing the population, plus forced russification of Ukrainians living thereThe issue is that it were to get that far, I would expect Russia to ethnically cleanse the area, followed by pointing out that the citizens don't want to join Ukraine, so the sanctions should be lifted. This should be anticipated in advance, and it made clear that sanctions would remain regardless of the opinion of whoever moved into the area.
Indeed. Sometimes (to paraphrase) there are many ghastly people on both sides.My only concern is the main leaders are Islamic extremists.
Yes, absolutely.The issue is that it were to get that far, I would expect Russia to ethnically cleanse the area, followed by pointing out that the citizens don't want to join Ukraine, so the sanctions should be lifted. This should be anticipated in advance, and it made clear that sanctions would remain regardless of the opinion of whoever moved into the area.
We know for sure there has been forced russification of the occupied area of Zaporizhzhia oblast where my wife's mother (and many friends) lives.I can tell you for certain in Crimea and now in increasing measure in Mariupol, they already have and are ethnically cleansing the population, plus forced russification of Ukrainians living there
Yes, and once Ukraine regains their lands, there could be an offer that any citizens that wish to move to mother Russia are free to do so.The issue is that it were to get that far, I would expect Russia to ethnically cleanse the area, followed by pointing out that the citizens don't want to join Ukraine, so the sanctions should be lifted. This should be anticipated in advance, and it made clear that sanctions would remain regardless of the opinion of whoever moved into the area.
Yes, and once Ukraine regains their lands, there could be an offer that any citizens that wish to move to mother Russia are free to do so.