[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[raymondo]

Guess the problem is there will always be the odd one which goes astray.

Yes, and as Kurt Volker said to the BBC "that's war".

 

[Triggaaar]

He is selling it, but it's mostly only those that see only state TV that are buying it. If it's open knowledge that the US is allowing its weapons to strike inside Russia, it will be easier to sway the rest.

Ok. I don't see it that way though.

 

[Sirnormangall]

I'm wondering if there may be a bit of smoke and mirrors surrounding this delay in making an announcement.
For instance, there may be value in giving Ukraine permission, but not announcing it, and leaving Putin to wonder about it. This action could save Ukrainian lives.
NATO could do a Putin, and do the opposite of what they are expected to do. But if we announce it, it firms up and becomes official, and Putin could use it for his faux outrage.

It is possible that just the prospect of western missiles hitting Russia, but not actually pulling the lever, may act as a sufficient deterrent. OK, it's unlikely, but it might be worth a pop. A bit like the Kerch bridge maybe. The prospect of the bridge being destroyed may be of more value than actually destroying it.

That’s a good point - why let Putin know what the West has decided? Let him sweat and find out if / when it happens.

 

[crookie]

Guess the problem is there will always be the odd one which goes astray.

A problem for most of Russia's missiles as they say they never target civilians !!

 

[Eric the meek]

Budanov interview:

Fwiw, I didn't think Russia's economy had that long to go.

 

[fly high]

Budanov interview:

Fwiw, I didn't think Russia's economy had that long to go.

Hope he's right, another reason we should give Ukraine what ever it needs NOW.

 

[Mental Lental]

BOOM!

 

[Binney on acid]

BOOM!

Fantastic ! What a great way to start my day.

 

[peterward]

Fantastic ! What a great way to start my day.

 

[Eric the meek]

Interesting how Russia still stores its ammo in big warehouse dumps, inspite of the obvious risk.

 

[peterward]

We can only hope this is true? Not sure how Kyiv based journalist would know it, but here's hoping.

 

[Eric the meek]

We can only hope this is true? Not sure how Kyiv based journalist would know it, but here's hoping.

BBC Ukraine correspondent just now, asked if this attack by a Ukrainian drone, is a statement of intent by Ukraine, making it clear it will go it alone, without the use of western missiles deep inside Russia.

 

[Scappa]

Debris from an intercepted UAV, according to the local authorities. Impressive cook-off going on in the background

 

[fly high]

Debris from an intercepted UAV, according to the local authorities. Impressive cook-off going on in the background

Surprising what a bit of debris can do!! Expected them to say it was all to do with a carelessly discarded cigarette & only minor damage, oh & there is a fireworks display going on, hence the bangs. An excellent result if all that ammo has really been destroyed & even better news if it was caused by a Ukrainian produced missile.

 

[raymondo]

Debris from an intercepted UAV, according to the local authorities. Impressive cook-off going on in the background

Yes indeed...as usual, Russia shot down ALL of the Ukrainian drones in that attack, and it was just a small debris spark that set a bush alight... nothing to see here.

 

[raymondo]

It registered on the earthquake monitors...a tectonic strike

Blast from attack on Russian arms depot picked up on earthquake monitors

Ukrainian drone attack causes large explosion at arsenal in Toropets, more than 300 miles north of Ukraine

www.theguardian.com

 

[peterward]

Here's a big dose of potential positivity.

 

[Eric the meek]

Here's a big dose of potential positivity.

Was that 3 million drones this year for Ukraine?

 

[peterward]

Was that 3 million drones this year for Ukraine?

Yes. I guessed that's self produced?

Drone also varying in size/scope from the big long range deep strike to smaller more simple variants.

 

[Binney on acid]

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This is one company that I'm glad to see expand.