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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)



crookie

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All true.
However, I was reading about this very subject a few weeks ago.

Russia’s weakest link when it comes to combatting cells in their midst is that it is so easy to bribe officials there.

If you have money, you can pretty much go anywhere and get to anyone. Within reason.

Russias’s government workers and officials are some of the most curruptable in the world.

Of course, that also has its flip side for espionage and resistance fighters. Not one of the fuckers can be trusted.
Indeed. Create a society that is corrupt and bribable on every level, and everything has its price. Totally insidious. Horrible, as you say, no one is trustworthy
 




Hugo Rune

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Regardless of what their GPs might think, I expect to see some ‘sudden heart issues’ within the MOD leadership.

“Mr Surovikin, Mr Putin will meet you tomorrow on the 97th floor of the Federation Tower. Please come alone.”

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Eric the meek

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Regardless of what their GPs might think, I expect to see some ‘sudden heart issues’ within the MOD leadership.

'Sources say that together with him, 13 other senior officers have been detained for questioning and 15 have been dismissed or suspended. They were detained hours after the start of the mutiny.'

Detained hours after the start of the mutiny?

You could be forgiven for thinking that the underlying aim of the 'rebellion' was to flush out those who were not 100% behind Putin.

Has Russia just had a Stalinist purge?
 


raymondo

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'Sources say that together with him, 13 other senior officers have been detained for questioning and 15 have been dismissed or suspended. They were detained hours after the start of the mutiny.'

Detained hours after the start of the mutiny?

You could be forgiven for thinking that the underlying aim of the 'rebellion' was to flush out those who were not 100% behind Putin.

Has Russia just had a Stalinist purge?
Could be ... Or maybe a week after the start...and they are trying to show the people how 'on it' they were really 🤔
 






Eric the meek

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Could be ... Or maybe a week after the start...and they are trying to show the people how 'on it' they were really 🤔
Sorry - I don't think I will ever be up to speed on Russian politics, manoeuvring, blame-passing etc.

What I do appreciate is how Putin et al attach the most - extraordinary - importance to the optics. This is a real weakness.
 


raymondo

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Sorry - I don't think I will ever be up to speed on Russian politics, manoeuvring, blame-passing etc.

What I do appreciate is how Putin et al attach the most - extraordinary - importance to the optics. This is a real weakness.
Yep, it's like the development of the script for the most devious, double crossing spy film... right in front of our eyes.
 






Eric the meek

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Cunning plan - steal his contact lenses.
He's got special Russian military contact lenses with a facial recognition facility. They work very well until he looks himself in the mirror.
(There's a cracking conspiracy theory that suggests that the original Putin no longer exists).

Back to my point - the Kremlin elite have pulled the wool over the eyes of the Russian masses for so long, that they are completely and utterly obsessed with how things look. Anything that suggests that they are not in total control, goes down very, very badly. This is a potential goldmine.
 








peterward

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I'd just add that this twitter poster Sushko, is a real clickbait account.
He does copy post all general news stories that appear in others news accounts, but there's also a lot of made up unsubstantiated BS/rumours, for clicks.

Maybe this is real, but also high chance from Sushko it isnt.
 




sparkie

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I'd just add that this twitter poster Sushko, is a real clickbait account.
He does copy post all general news stories that appear in others news accounts, but there's also a lot of made up unsubstantiated BS/rumours, for clicks.

Maybe this is real, but also high chance from Sushko it isnt.
Sushko is an absolute charlatan. A grifter who is worth ignoring.
 




raymondo

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I'd just add that this twitter poster Sushko, is a real clickbait account.
He does copy post all general news stories that appear in others news accounts, but there's also a lot of made up unsubstantiated BS/rumours, for clicks.

Maybe this is real, but also high chance from Sushko it isnt.
Hmmm, thanks. I was thinking similar about Sushko when I looked through many of his posts yesterday.
 




Mellotron

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I'd just add that this twitter poster Sushko, is a real clickbait account.
He does copy post all general news stories that appear in others news accounts, but there's also a lot of made up unsubstantiated BS/rumours, for clicks.

Maybe this is real, but also high chance from Sushko it isnt.
Sushko is an absolute charlatan. A grifter who is worth ignoring.
Thanks for notifying, will bear in mind in future.
 


Weststander

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Putin seems hell-bent on strengthening the NATO alliance via the Law Of Unintended Consequences. Welcome Finland and Sweden, and shortly Ukraine. The boy Putin's had a shocker here

Sweden and Finland were never going to join NATO.

Well done Judo Midget in strengthening NATO :bowdown:
 






Eric the meek

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I have no idea whether the events at Voronezh are real, false, a false flag, some and some, or something else we haven't thought of.

I know I wrote the following a few days ago, but in view of events at Voronezh, I think it is worth repeating.

Several months ago, the Royal United Services Institute predicted that as Russia continues to lose the ground war, it would focus more on other fronts, i.e. propaganda, disinformation and cyber warfare.
 


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