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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)



Titanic

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This, and people would do well to remember it.

Besides, the pay's terrible since Mustafa flounced (how he'd enjoy this thread!) and you still have to go through an initiation ceremony involving [MENTION=31]El Presidente[/MENTION] a wetsuit and a melon.

Melon? what happened to the pineapples? Has he gone soft?
 




Eric the meek

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Aug 24, 2020
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This is so twisted.

You cannot tell from the map whether Russia intend to invade Moldova. Correct.

The claim was that you can tell from the map that it will be invaded, and that the map is proof of that. But you can't, and it isn't, for the reasons I stated.

Indeed.

But here is your claim from your post

'it would be very misleading to present that as a plan to "Invade Moldova". Do you see what you are saying? Very misleading?? The opposite of invading is not invading. So the implication of your comment is that the plan tells us that they don't intend to invade Moldova.

There is nothing in that map that supports that view.
 




Titanic

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howardfineman [MENTION=12130]howardfineman[/MENTION]
Word I get from a very good source is that #Putin has cut #Lavrov out of his inner circle. This could be Lavrov spin as he faces financial sanctions and the prospect of war crimes charges. Even so, it’s significant. Lavrov, whom I’ve met, is not as insane as his madman boss.

Not a good time for Putin to be losing close allies or for that matter voices of reason.
 


WATFORD zero

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This, and people would do well to remember it.

Besides, the pay's terrible since Mustafa flounced (how he'd enjoy this thread!) and you still have to go through an initiation ceremony involving [MENTION=31]El Presidente[/MENTION] a wetsuit and a melon.

Well what sort of idiots would willingly put themselves through THAT ? ???
 






Here'sWally

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Sep 27, 2021
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Indeed.

But here is your claim from your post

'it would be very misleading to present that as a plan to "Invade Moldova". Do you see what you are saying? Very misleading?? The opposite of invading is not invading. So the implication of your comment is that the plan tells us that they don't intend to invade Moldova.

There is nothing in that map that supports that view.

No, the implication of my comment is that the plan doesn't tell us that they do intend to.

If you can't understand the difference at this point, I can't help you. Sorry.
 






JamesAndTheGiantHead

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howardfineman [MENTION=12130]howardfineman[/MENTION]
Word I get from a very good source is that #Putin has cut #Lavrov out of his inner circle. This could be Lavrov spin as he faces financial sanctions and the prospect of war crimes charges. Even so, it’s significant. Lavrov, whom I’ve met, is not as insane as his madman boss.

Not a good time for Putin to be losing close allies or for that matter voices of reason.

If Lavrov is the voice of reason then we’re all f**ked :lolol:
 




Eric the meek

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No, the implication of my comment is that the plan doesn't tell us that they do intend to.

If you can't understand the difference at this point, I can't help you. Sorry.

Oh dear. Both implications are correct.

The other implication of your comment is that the plan doesn't tell us that they don't intend to.

You even confirmed this yourself in your previous comment. You even put 'Correct' after your own work !

'You cannot tell from the map whether Russia intend to invade Moldova. Correct.' QED.
 








Bozza

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Jul 4, 2003
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It doesn't actually say they are still taking Russian money.

They could be of course, but that's not what the article nor the report it relates to says, as it relates to donations made between October and December 2021.

You'd have to wait for the release of the Q1 2022 report to know whether they are doing so currently.
 




Here'sWally

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Oh dear. Both implications are correct.

The other implication of your comment is that the plan doesn't tell us that they don't intend to.

You even confirmed this yourself in your previous comment. You even put 'Correct' after your own work !

'You cannot tell from the map whether Russia intend to invade Moldova. Correct.' QED.

Yes the other implication of my comment is that the plan doesn't tell us that they don't intend to.

But then, I never said that the map proves they don't intend to, just that it doesn't prove that they do.

I hope this has now been cleared up.
 


Springal

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Co-Op are removing Russian Standard vodka from sale.
 




Baldseagull

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This, and people would do well to remember it.

Besides, the pay's terrible since Mustafa flounced (how he'd enjoy this thread!) and you still have to go through an initiation ceremony involving [MENTION=31]El Presidente[/MENTION] a wetsuit and a melon.

Think I could stand the initiation ceremony, but not having to take Ppf off ignore so I could see when he needed his next ban.
 






Insel affe

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Feb 23, 2009
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Brighton factually.....
News from Reuters:

1) Turkey has closed the Bosporus to warships, and Russia has obeyed the ruling, stopping 3 of their ships going through to the Black Sea

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...-sea-passage-bid-upon-its-request-2022-03-02/

2) Ukraine to receive more missiles and Turkish drones

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...iles-turkish-drones-minister-says-2022-03-02/

Turkey's regime have gone up in my estimation, although be it tentatively as their leader is pretty batshit crazy himself.
 
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