[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[Poojah]

A similar view taken by one Neville Chamberlain in 1938 … that went well.


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Who knows how it would have ended of we’d have taken a sterner approach, sooner, but I repeat: Hitler didn’t have access to nuclear weapons. That is clearly a key consideration in the approach that is being take.

 

[essbee1]

What does BP's offload of stake in Russian oil mean exactly please anyone? Just announced. Ta.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

Well in that case we have a world war then, in all reality. Not much we can do about that if that’s the case, but I’d rather we didn’t do anything to increase the prospects of that happening.

Neville chamberlain …….


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[Deportivo Seagull]

Who knows how it would have ended of we’d have taken a sterner approach, sooner, but I repeat: Hitler didn’t have access to nuclear weapons. That is clearly a key consideration in the approach that is being take.

Then he has won. End of.


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[Icy Gull]

Then he has won. End of.


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Not if Ukraine turn it into a guerrilla war once the country has fallen. Russia will not be able to control all of Ukraine. Long drawn out war if it doesn’t go Worldwide, which is a real prospect the way this is ramping up.

 

[KZNSeagull]

BP is exiting it's 20% shareholding in Rosneft. They have not said what "exiting" means as yet as there won't be many who want to buy those shares! Both BP nominated directors to resign immediately.

 

[A1X]

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[Deportivo Seagull]

Not if Ukraine turn it into a guerrilla war once the country has fallen. Russia will not be able to control all of Ukraine. Long drawn out war if it doesn’t go Worldwide, which is a real prospect the way this is ramping up.

Totally agree. Just responding to Pooja and his assertion that we should effectively given in because of putins threat of using nuclear weapons ….


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[dazzer6666]

Lot of reports (on twitter but from news agencies) suggesting Ukraines have now got control of Kharkiv back………

 

[Dorset Seagull]

This could shape up to be like the Euro Super League. Taken down by the fans/public of all those opposed

 

[rogersix]

Lot of reports (on twitter but from news agencies) suggesting Ukraines have now got control of Kharkiv back………

auntie beeb had it at 4.30

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

I'll repeat it again, youre clueless. Youre the hard left version of Swansman. A nut.

You do realise it was the same false pretext Hitler used in the Suduntenland to invade Czechoslavakia.

I'm beside myself really with this total nonsense, from a wife who comes from as far in the East of Ukraine as you can be Mariupol, who is ethnic Russian speaker, whose family are cowering right now as Russian missiles rein down on civilian areas, where locals in the street have been killed, homes destroyed and you spout imaginary Kremlin talking points.
You can enjoy your loony left utopian fantasy land all you like, but the discrimination from nazis driving people out of eastern ukraine is beyond deluded and utterly clueless.

Ukraine is a soverign nation, the peoples republics are not real, they were Russian actors who seized building with Russian special ops, and the latest high tech weaponary claiming to be civilians.... at a time when the Ukrainian army was weak..... Oh I know the kremlin, russian state TV narratives of 2014, that Nazis are coming to drive you out, but thats what it was narrative. Nobody was driven out, they came to defend their nation against a hybrid Russian invasion.

Svoboda is a Ukrainian nationalist party that polls under 2%, not in power ever, an opposition party a bit like UKip. The current President is a Russian speaking Jew, his grandfather was in the red army, he lost family to the concentration camps, the Ukrainian PM is a Jew too.

The Azov battalion was a defence battalion that tried to protect Ukrainian cities in the east from Hybrid Russian take over (with Neo Nazi Russians - sorry thats not told to you on RT). Wagner group - the way Russia tries to insert Russian fighting troops into conflicts like hybrid take overs without being regular troops, is full of Neo Nazis.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/wagners-rusich-neo-nazi-attack-unit-hints-its-going-back-into-ukraine-undercover

https://euromaidanpress.com/2015/08/30/german-neo-nazis-carry-dnr-flag-while-kremlin-tries-to-portray-it-as-anti-fascist/


The Russians tried to also Seize Mariupol, Kharkiv and Odessa also but the Russians, yes actual Russian citizens, neo nazis and hard lefties with Russian special ops, sent from Russia (not Ukrainian Russian speakers), were driven out of seizing administrative buildings and trying to do what they succeded with in Donetsk and Luhansk.

https://sciencenorway.no/conflict-foreign-fighters-terrorism/this-is-where-neo-nazi-foreign-fighters-fought-alongside-communists/1853856

Ukraine had no military, the money was stolen, they had nothing and were willing to use anyone to defend against seizure of cities by Russians.

Thats the truth. the rubbish you spout is Kremlin myth. I despise hard left and hard right extremists ideoligcally, but if Hard left and right French citizens started to seize buildings in Brighton and get French speaking Brightonians to rise up against the rest, I wouldnt care what your political views are. You stop them and send them packing. It was military defence not political or ideological.

Don’t be concerned about him. He is a self confessed supporter of Militant Tendency. Best wishes to your wife’s family.

 

[peterward]

Don’t be concerned about him. He is a self confessed supporter of Militant Tendency. Best wishes to your wife’s family.

Thanks NB

 

[TomandJerry]

Ukraine's interior minister reported that missiles had been launched from Belarus into northern Ukraine (see our post at 4.34 GMT).

He now says they hit an airport in the city of Zhytomyr.

"This is what's been hit by the Iskanders fired from Belarus at about 17:00... the Russian and Belarusian fascists have targeted Zhytomyr Airport," Anton Herashchenko posted on Telegram

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[peterward]

It was a ruse. These aren't genuine peace talks.

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And the moral is you can NEVER trust the Russian government. Lawless mafia

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-bans-russia-flights-ukraine-b2024448.html?amp

The EU will close its airspace to Russian airlines as well as fund weapon supplies to Ukraine and ban pro-Kremlin media, Ursula von der Leyen has announced.

 

[swindonseagull]

Putin has fired his defence chief.....has the internal rebellion started?
Is it true or a fake story?

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[Springal]

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Our brave PM on the front line (*front line at Brize Norton)

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[TomandJerry]

Putin has fired his defence chief.....has the internal rebellion started?

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Probably didn't want to be the man to start a nuclear fall out

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[Poojah]

Totally agree. Just responding to Pooja and his assertion that we should effectively given in because of putins threat of using nuclear weapons ….


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No one is suggesting we give in; I’m saying I believe we are correct not to directly intervene militarily in Ukraine right at this moment. Do you genuinely believe we should?