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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)



raymondo

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Apr 26, 2017
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Wiltshire
Yes, he's quite amusing. I think it's because he doesn't rely on any, you know, data. There are no graphs, no powerpoint, nothing. Just him talking. In front of a cave.
I actually like this kind of presentation style. It's not formulaic.
Indeed, the main presenters we, as a group, 'follow' all have different styles - it's good👍
 






peterward

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NSC Patron
Nov 11, 2009
12,289
Is he by any chance hinting that Russia has a debt crisis? :LOL:

"The Ruble is the mother of stable currencies."
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Eric the meek

Fiveways Wilf
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Aug 24, 2020
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The paper linked below, - may - constitute the guts of the peace deal put to Russia and Ukraine. Kellogg co-authored it in April, and has since been appointed as envoy.
A lot could still happen of course. I have only skim-read it.


linked paper:

 


Mental Lental

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Jul 5, 2003
2,300
Shiki-shi, Saitama
I suspect Trump thinks he’s gonna be able to “art of the deal” peace in Ukraine. He’ll offer up the deal of Russia keeping Donbas and Crimea. Threaten Zelensky with complete withdrawal of US aid if he doesn’t accept. Maybe threaten Putin with NATO involvement if he doesn’t accept on his end.

Both Zelensky and Putin will tell him to get bent and it’ll be another one for the gigantic broken promises pile.
 




GoldstoneVintage

Active member
Oct 20, 2024
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Europe
I suspect Trump thinks he’s gonna be able to “art of the deal” peace in Ukraine. He’ll offer up the deal of Russia keeping Donbas and Crimea. Threaten Zelensky with complete withdrawal of US aid if he doesn’t accept. Maybe threaten Putin with NATO involvement if he doesn’t accept on his end.

Both Zelensky and Putin will tell him to get bent and it’ll be another one for the gigantic broken promises pile.
Yep. Can't see Ukraine ceding territory and quite frankly, why the f*** should they? If Putin gets to keep what he stole, there'll be no lasting peace.
 


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