[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[raymondo]

This is a relatively small detail in the scope of this war, and the length of the front line... nevertheless I think it's interesting and positive for Ukraine.

 

[raymondo]

Damage in Odessa port...

 

[peterward]

Damage in Odessa port...

Fascism, terrorism.

There is no military purpose in hitting grain silos, none.

We are witnessing the closest thing to that which many of our grand, or great grandparents did in the early 40's.

Genocidal fascists without any morals or limits, underpinned by a never ending web of lies.

 

[raymondo]

Fascism, terrorism.

There is no military purpose in hitting grain silos, none.

We are witnessing the closest thing to that which many of our grand, or great grandparents did in the early 40's.

Genocidal fascists without any morals or limits, underpinned by a never ending web of lies.

Exactly. It's the weaponising of global food supplies. I hope the countries whose supplies will be affected by this are watching and understanding.

 

[sparkie]

Not long now, I think, until Putin is ousted.

His Bungleskrieg is unsustainable. They are approaching a quarter of a million Russian dead.

 

[raymondo]

Not long now, I think, until Putin is ousted.

His Bungleskrieg is unsustainable. They are approaching a quarter of a million Russian dead.

One would hope so @sparkie , but I wonder how many of even the Russian top military or elite have any idea of that likely number.
I can imagine they haven't even counted the convicts that have died, or a lot of ethnic minorities from the provinces.
Are we aware of any Russian military blogger who has said (or dared to) anything close to that number, on state TV or social media?
I really have no idea how opaque their whole misinformation bubble is at the very top .

 

[Insel affe]

Not long now, I think, until Putin is ousted.

His Bungleskrieg is unsustainable. They are approaching a quarter of a million Russian dead.

Ah but the Russian public are being dupped and think they have lost less than 20 men, the others just deserted

 

[peterward]

Not long now, I think, until Putin is ousted.

His Bungleskrieg is unsustainable. They are approaching a quarter of a million Russian dead.

I know we're a pretty well mannered family club, but I must admit, I hope to see Putin dragged through the streets and beaten to a pulp by the people.

Thats one PPV i'd pay for.

 

[jcdenton08]

Not long now, I think, until Putin is ousted.

His Bungleskrieg is unsustainable. They are approaching a quarter of a million Russian dead.

I hope you’re right. I fear you’re not.

 

[chickens]

One would hope so @sparkie , but I wonder how many of even the Russian top military or elite have any idea of that likely number.
I can imagine they haven't even counted the convicts that have died, or a lot of ethnic minorities from the provinces.
Are we aware of any Russian military blogger who has said (or dared to) anything close to that number, on state TV or social media?
I really have no idea how opaque their whole misinformation bubble is at the very top .

That’s the issue that exercises my mind, how accurate is the information that the Kremlin receive? If Putin isn’t being given bad news, and is having minor victories overstated, he’s probably happy to continue for as long as the good news keeps rolling in.

 

[sparkie]

The thing is that 250,000 dead must mean that a million+ Russians know someone who has died closely. In a population of 140 million.

The cover up is unsustainable and it will get worse.

 

[raymondo]

That’s the issue that exercises my mind, how accurate is the information that the Kremlin receive? If Putin isn’t being given bad news, and is having minor victories overstated, he’s probably happy to continue for as long as the good news keeps rolling in.

I think that's right in this case: 'don't tell the boss bad news'.
I believe it will take a big breakthrough in the front line, in more than one place, plus a capitulation of Russian troops in those areas, to make it more visible that things might not be going to plan.
Or possibly the Kerch bridges (road and rail) dropped 100%

 

[raymondo]

I have no idea if Zelenskiy's statement is true, but it was worth saying.

 

[A1X]

 

[Triggaaar]

Not long now, I think, until Putin is ousted.

Why? What has happened to make it suddenly likely?

 

[sparkie]

Why? What has happened to make it suddenly likely?

The unsustainability of the ever increasing numbers of Russians dead in Ukraine. We are approaching a quarter of a million.

The tipping point gets a day closer each day.

 

[St Leonards Seagull]

Exactly. It's the weaponising of global food supplies. I hope the countries whose supplies will be affected by this are watching and understanding.

Still no response from Ergodan as far as I’m aware, is he bottling it?

 

[Taybha]

Cunty Mccuntface trying out his new salute, hasn't quite mastered it yet but it won't be long.

 

[raymondo]

This gave me a smile over breakfast...

 

[Triggaaar]

The unsustainability of the ever increasing numbers of Russians dead in Ukraine. We are approaching a quarter of a million.

The problem is, the people is Russia who would care about that a) don't know and b) have no power to do anything about it anyway. So what if it's a million dead? They can't overthrow him.