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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)
- Thread starter vegster
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Interesting comments from a Chinese official yesterday:
China’s envoy to the European Union has implied Beijing could support Ukraine’s effort to reclaim its 1991 territorial borders.
Fu Cong was in Brussels for the 2023 Europe-China Business Summit on June 16 where he was interviewed by Al Jazeera and other news organisations. When asked whether China supported Ukraine’s war goals in the conflict, including retaking regions currently occupied by Russia, including the Crimean peninsula, he said: “I don’t see why not.”
China has not explicitly criticised Russia over the conflict since the 2022 invasion and has declared a “no limits” partnership. Comments from senior officials on the conflict are rare.
2h ago06.10 BST
China’s envoy to the European Union has implied Beijing could support Ukraine’s effort to reclaim its 1991 territorial borders.
Fu Cong was in Brussels for the 2023 Europe-China Business Summit on June 16 where he was interviewed by Al Jazeera and other news organisations. When asked whether China supported Ukraine’s war goals in the conflict, including retaking regions currently occupied by Russia, including the Crimean peninsula, he said: “I don’t see why not.”
Fu has previously said, in an interview with the New York Times in April, that China did not support Russian attempts to annex Ukrainian territory, and stressed that Beijing’s position is that the conflict be resolved by negotiations.
China has not explicitly criticised Russia over the conflict since the 2022 invasion and has declared a “no limits” partnership. Comments from senior officials on the conflict are rare.
2h ago06.10 BST
I think a month or so ago China voted in the UN to state that Russia was the aggressor?
happypig
Staring at the rude boys
They abstained I think, which was a surprise as they were expected to vote against.
- Aug 24, 2020
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Remember back to the time when we were concerned that China would supply Russia with weapons?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the passage of time appears to confirm that our concerns were unfounded, doesn't it?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the passage of time appears to confirm that our concerns were unfounded, doesn't it?
It's good to read that, despite having a 'special relationship' with Russia, China do not support annexation of Ukrainian territory.
They abstained I think, which was a surprise as they were expected to vote against.
I think they voted against Russia:
China votes for UN resolution with reference to Russia's 'aggression'
The resolution is not centred on the Ukraine war and instead calls for greater cooperation between the UN and the Council of Europe. #EuropeNews
www.euronews.com
No, not unfounded, given the 'special no limits relationship' they agreed. However, constant pressure from the majority of the world, and Russia failing to achieve the quick victory they promised, will have forced China to rethink their strategy.
happypig
Staring at the rude boys
You're right, I was looking at the wrong voteI think they voted against Russia:
China votes for UN resolution with reference to Russia's 'aggression'
The resolution is not centred on the Ukraine war and instead calls for greater cooperation between the UN and the Council of Europe. #EuropeNews
SeagullinExile
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No proof that’s Wargonzo. He apparently appeared on Russian TV after his supposed death.
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
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I think the Russians are genuinely sub-human.Another day, another atrocity by Russia.
Death toll in Kramatorsk upgraded to 3. A further 25 have been injured. These were civilians of course. Two missiles in the same pizza restaurant isn't a coincidence.
You can forgive the odd random one that goes off course - these are Russian missiles - but this was planned and premeditated.
Russia-Ukraine war: 'Putin's henchmen' threatening UK, Britons warned; Moscow's troops reach key Ukrainian city
Russian troops have reached the Ukrainian city of Toretsk, an anchor of Kyiv's defences in the eastern Donetsk region. Its capture could bring closer the prospect of Moscow securing the entire Donbas. Meanwhile, the MI5 boss has warned Russia wants to create "mayhem" on UK streets.news.sky.com
- Nov 11, 2009
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I've not seen DNA! The marine that shot him is convinced its him, the one and only subsequent appearance so far on state TV (saw it too), his actual words don't directly correspond to the recent event, he talks of his death being faked, his friend getting killed in August 2022 and other stuff not related to currently battlefield developments.
There's a hell of a lot of people convinced it's old footage, but you're right there is no direct proof.
- Nov 11, 2009
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Agree, but theyre already trying to re-write the narrative on state TV.
Putin the great savior, who defused civil war rather than Putin the bunker coward who shat himself and legged it.
They are certainly making the best efforts to prove it
- Aug 24, 2020
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This latest Sky report is interesting -
news.sky.com
It implicates 'General Armageddon' Surovikin in the rebellion, and reports that Gerasimov and Medvedev have not been seen since Saturday.
Russia-Ukraine war: 'Putin's henchmen' threatening UK, Britons warned; Moscow's troops reach key Ukrainian city
Russian troops have reached the Ukrainian city of Toretsk, an anchor of Kyiv's defences in the eastern Donetsk region. Its capture could bring closer the prospect of Moscow securing the entire Donbas. Meanwhile, the MI5 boss has warned Russia wants to create "mayhem" on UK streets.
It implicates 'General Armageddon' Surovikin in the rebellion, and reports that Gerasimov and Medvedev have not been seen since Saturday.
- Nov 11, 2009
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There's been multiple reports over the years, including orginal identities of 2 individuals who are said to have become Putin body doubles.This latest Sky report is interesting -
Russia-Ukraine war: 'Putin's henchmen' threatening UK, Britons warned; Moscow's troops reach key Ukrainian city
Russian troops have reached the Ukrainian city of Toretsk, an anchor of Kyiv's defences in the eastern Donetsk region. Its capture could bring closer the prospect of Moscow securing the entire Donbas. Meanwhile, the MI5 boss has warned Russia wants to create "mayhem" on UK streets.
It implicates 'General Armageddon' Surovikin in the rebellion, and reports that Gerasimov and Medvedev have not been seen since Saturday.
There was video of a "Putin" in Mariupol a month or two back and matching that individual to Putin in the Kremlin showed a few comparative facial anomalies!
Certainly everywhere I've read this afternoon about "Putins" visit to Dagestan There's pretty universal commentary that it's one of his body doubles.
It's widely published (including in Russia) that Putin makes those who want to see him, quarantine before they can. He allegedly spends a lot of time in isolation and his personal security is off the chart. An old, very paranoid man.
So the video of his trip to Dagestan, which on the weekend called for breaking from Russia as the coup was happening, and an outgoing "Putin" sociable meet & greet are the opposite of normal behaviour and protocols in a notorious hotbed of anti government sentiment.
General Surovikin, aka General armageddon, the number 2 in the army has allegedly been under arrest since 25th in the notorious Leftovo prison. He was part of the failed coup of 1991 too.
Big Purge is coming. Expect a few window accidents !
- Aug 24, 2020
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Putin now feels the need to issue a display of whooping adulation from paid actors in Dagestan, in front of one of his doubles.
But the truth behind it, is even stranger than the invented fiction. He expects the Russian people to believe it. And he's right. Some of them will.