[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[Triggaaar]

Tactical nuclear weopons on Ukraine. Who knows what a mad man will do. Hitler as an example.

But why would he attack Ukraine, when he's currently being attacked by Wagner?

 

[The Clamp]

I wonder at what stage the Wagner convoy will be engaged properly. Would assume that would be a litmus lest for both sides resolve.

Already happened this afternoon. The convoy was attacked by three fighter jets. At least one of those jets was downed by Wagner’s anti-aircraft weapons. And the convoy is still rolling.

 

[maltaseagull]

Against whom?

The UK apparently!

Putin warns UK over depleted uranium tank shells for Ukraine

UK will send Ukraine armour-piercing shells, containing depleted uranium, for use with its Challenger 2 battle tanks.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[aolstudios]

Where would Putin go do you think? China?... Congo... Syria... who'd have him?

Corbyn's house? (Or Farage's frankly)

 

[dangull]

But why would he attack Ukraine, when he's currently being attacked by Wagner?

Anyway, it seems the situation has been de-esculated. News ongoing.

 

[Eeyore]

Prigozhin has apparently agreed to de-escalate, according to Belarus leadership.

Given that he was traveling up the M4, I suggest he got tired of all the variable speed limits.

 

[TomandJerry]

The office of Belarus president Alexander Lukashenko just announced that Wagner leader Yevgeny Prigozhin accepted a proposal to “stop the movement of armed persons of the Wagner company on the territory of Russia and take further steps to de-escalate tensions,” the president’s office said, with similar reporting in Russian news outlets.

The statement said that Vladimir Putin briefed Lukashenko in the morning and, with his approval, Lukashenko held negotiating talks with Prigozhin.

“Negotiations continued throughout the day. As a result, they came to agreements on the inadmissibility of unleashing a bloody massacre on the territory of Russia,” the statement read.

 

[raymondo]

not binding on the rest of NATO, who might not be so happy about unilateral escalation.

They may not be...but then they may not be happy if fallout from a tactical nuke or damaged power station enters their territory either.

 

[The Clamp]

I very much doubt Russians will arm themselves and fight. Certainly not with any success. Personally I think if Wagner succeeds in its coup, there’s a strong chance the first thing they’ll do is start nuking Ukraine.

Prig is a man that thinks the brutalisation of Ukranian citizens and the shelling of Ukraine civilian targets didn’t go far enough. He is a psychopath and “controls” a mob of armed criminals.

I think the West will come to regret not arming Ukraine to the teeth and enabling them to blow Putin’s forces off the face of the earth while we had the chance.

What could possibly be coming could be far worse for everyone.

But, there’s all to play for. It’s anyone’s guess how this plays out.

Murderous, psychotic, barbarian or Murderous, psychotic, barbarian who thought the first murderous, psychotic, barbarian was too soft on the Ukranians?

 

[Nobby]

They’re turning back. Bugger.
Prigozhin is dead meat now

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

I'd be more concerned about what comes after Putin if this does succeed. As stated previously, Prigozhin has criticised Putin for not using tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine.

Prizhogin is not next in line. He is an outsider and purely a Putin creation. The Russian elite would/will appoint a successor from amongst their own to ensure business as usual.

 

[chickens]

They’re turning back. Bugger.
Prigozhin is dead meat now

It does feel that way. Lots of hot takes doing the rounds, some suggesting that he’s resting his troops, some that he’s done a deal to guarantee his and his troops safety (which I can’t believe he’d fall for) and another that he’s been promised the heads of those he considers enemies, which again, I’m dubious of.

Putin’s the kind of guy that I’d want payment in advance from, and even then he’d pour nerve agent over the cash.

 

[JamesAndTheGiantHead]

Prigozhin, presumably;

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

They’re turning back. Bugger.
Prigozhin is dead meat now

This is probably the best outcome for Ukraine and the West. Having Prigozhin as a military dictator of Russia sounds scary, whereas I'll take a weakling Putin being pushed around by his warlords any day.

Pity the bunch of neo nazis didn't just blow each other up though.

 

[jcdenton08]

“It was just a prank, bro” - Prigozhin

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I very much doubt Russians will arm themselves and fight. Certainly not with any success. Personally I think if Wagner succeeds in its coup, there’s a strong chance the first thing they’ll do is start nuking Ukraine.

Prig is a man that thinks the brutalisation of Ukranian citizens and the shelling of Ukraine civilian targets didn’t go far enough. He is a psychopath and “controls” a mob of armed criminals.

I think the West will come to regret not arming Ukraine to the teeth and enabling them to blow Putin’s forces off the face of the earth while we had the chance.

What could possibly be coming could be far worse for everyone.

But, there’s all to play for. It’s anyone’s guess how this plays out.

Murderous, psychotic, barbarian or Murderous, psychotic, barbarian who thought the first murderous, psychotic, barbarian was too soft on the Ukranians?

It’s Mafia wars.

 

[raymondo]

Already happened this afternoon. The convoy was attacked by three fighter jets. At least one of those jets was downed by Wagner’s anti-aircraft weapons. And the convoy is still rolling.

They also shot down 6 Russian helicopters today... allegedly

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Seemingly the Belarusian President persuaded him to turn around. Sauce Reuters.

 

[raymondo]

They’re turning back. Bugger.
Prigozhin is dead meat now

Must be a deal of sorts, Shirley

 

[raymondo]

Seemingly the Belarusian President persuaded him to turn around. Sauce Reuters.

I struggle to imagine Lukaschenko saying anything useful to anyone tbh... cancel the popcorn