[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

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The Ides of March are coming up, on the 15th. Traditionally a time to settle debts.

On the Ides of March ..
Julius Caesar was assassinated
Czar Nicholas II abdicated
Germany occupied Czechoslovakia

 

[GT49er]

Or a standard coup d'état, hasty court martial and execution of Putin in a kangaroo night court, and complete withdrawal of troops.

Too much to hope for, I'm afraid.

 

[wellquickwoody]

Reports that Russia are now claiming that arms shipments from NATO/western countries are now considered to be legitimate military targets.

Would Putin actually launch attacks outside of Ukraine? Maybe upon aircraft?

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Reports that Russia are now claiming that arms shipments from NATO/western countries are now considered to be legitimate military targets.

Would Putin actually launch attacks outside of Ukraine? Maybe upon aircraft?

That makes all Putins armed forces in Ukraine targets.

He'd best not attack NATO convoys, but if he does oh well.

 

[British Bulldog]

Reports that Russia are now claiming that arms shipments from NATO/western countries are now considered to be legitimate military targets.

Would Putin actually launch attacks outside of Ukraine? Maybe upon aircraft?

More to do with convoys inside Ukraine they are threatening about by the looks of it?

 

[Eric the meek]

Reports that Russia are now claiming that arms shipments from NATO/western countries are now considered to be legitimate military targets.

Would Putin actually launch attacks outside of Ukraine? Maybe upon aircraft?

Whenever Russia makes an announcement like that, I read it as confirmation that the thing they are seeking to stop, is hurting them. So let's increase the arms shipments.

I thought the same when Putin made a speech and said 'no more sanctions', and accompanied it with an unspecified threat. The obvious response was to increase sanctions.

 

[vegster]

Not sure how clever it is to threaten arms shipments to Ukraine...lots of refugees and aid convoys going backwards and forwards. How does Russia safely identify an arms convoy correctly without risking yet another War Crimes violation?

 

[GT49er]

Not sure how clever it is to threaten arms shipments to Ukraine...lots of refugees and aid convoys going backwards and forwards. How does Russia safely identify an arms convoy correctly without risking yet another War Crimes violation?

You think Putin gives a toss about that?

 

[Hugo Rune]

Reports that Russia are now claiming that arms shipments from NATO/western countries are now considered to be legitimate military targets.

Would Putin actually launch attacks outside of Ukraine? Maybe upon aircraft?

No. He won’t.

Clearly, if the west are shipping arms to the Ukraine, Russia will target those shipments once they enter the Ukraine. There is a line however. They could bomb the **** out of Ukrainian border towns, that would not be attacking a NATO member.

 

[peterward]

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[Gabbafella]

Not sure how clever it is to threaten arms shipments to Ukraine...lots of refugees and aid convoys going backwards and forwards. How does Russia safely identify an arms convoy correctly without risking yet another War Crimes violation?

Why would he stop now? Hospitals seem to be fair game to this prick, a convoy won't matter. In for a penny.....

 

[Dorset Seagull]

Apologies if fixtures but an interesting read about the inner circle

https://www.ft.com/content/503fb110-f91e-4bed-b6dc-0d09582dd007

 

[The Clamp]

Reports that Russia are now claiming that arms shipments from NATO/western countries are now considered to be legitimate military targets.

Would Putin actually launch attacks outside of Ukraine? Maybe upon aircraft?

Maybe. But I doubt it. Unless Putin is a mental, which I don't believe he is, he will realise that attacking Nato assets will bring the wrath of the world down on him. He's struggling to take a few cities in one country, unless he goes nuclear Russia would be ashes in days.

 

[Eric the meek]

Apologies if fixtures but an interesting read about the inner circle

https://www.ft.com/content/503fb110-f91e-4bed-b6dc-0d09582dd007

You're right. That was a very interesting read about the inner circle, or siloviki.

The takeaway I got from it, is that the military would not stage a coup, but neither would they prevent one either.

 

[Dorset Seagull]

You're right. That was a very interesting read about the inner circle, or siloviki.

The takeaway I got from it, is that the military would not stage a coup, but neither would they prevent one either.

And it seems he is not the only maniac running the show!

 

[Eric the meek]

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'Russia's Defence Minister Sergey Shoigu must have allowed publication in the media of a document calling for the dismissal of officers involved in strikes on civilian targets'

If true, then what does this mean?

Tim White asks if he's scared of The Hague, or positioning himself to take over from Putin.

But it might also just be:

1) more passing the shit downwards. Putin has already sacked several generals and FSB staff, so Shoigu could be joining in avoiding the blame.
2) a difference of opinion in the inner circle....
3) some front line units are out of control / disobeying orders / or perhaps the comms don't work.

 

[dazzer6666]

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[essbee1]

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That would be immense if true.

 

[Motogull]

How does the world arrive at the scenario that Putin apologies, says "about turn" and promises not to do it again and then doesn't?

I can't see it. The only solution involves a woodchipper.

 

[birthofanorange]

How does the world arrive at the scenario that Putin apologies, says "about turn" and promises not to do it again and then doesn't?

I can't see it. The only solution involves a woodchipper.

You can't knock 'Hope'.