[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[lawros left foot]

EU are introducing sanctions against Belorus and any other State collaborating with Russia.

EU having a good war, so far.

 

[Igzilla]

EU are introducing sanctions against Belorus and any other State collaborating with Russia.

EU having a good war, so far.

EU are also talking about supplying Ukraine with intelligence on Russian troop movements from the satellite centre in Madrid.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

EU are also talking about supplying Ukraine with intelligence on Russian troop movements from the satellite centre in Madrid.

They should absolutely be doing this and I'm sure the Americans are helping in this regard as well

 

[CHAPPERS]

 

[KZNSeagull]

BBC: North Stand Chat has changed it's banner to the Ukrainian Flag.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Have you actually watched the channel ?!it's hardly Putin propaganda !!! Seems to be just showing what all the other western news channels are broadcasting

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No, I haven’t but with good reason. I can see that leaves me open to accusations of bias which I accept but I am not particularly interested in foreign news channels, especially ones funded by dictatorships.

 

[Eric the meek]

Very good article here on the Gruaniad website , no paywall as its the Gruaniad after all....

"Why Vladimir Putin has already lost this war "

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/28/vladimir-putin-war-russia-ukraine

That's the most powerful and deeply moving article on this war so far.

I urge everyone to find the time to read it.

 

[The Clamp]

That's the most powerful and deeply moving article on this war so far.

I urge everyone to find the time to read it.

Harari is an exceptional author. His book Sapiens is a masterpiece.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

I'm no fan of Rubio particularly but he is on the US Senate Intelligence committee.


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[PILTDOWN MAN]

Ukraine's UN ambassador great speech

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

The Ukrainian delegate to the UN has just asked the Assembly whether anyone actually voted in favour of accepting the Russian Federation into the UN to replace the Soviet Union (request made in a letter from Yeltsin). He asked for a show of hands. No-one put up their hands.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Ukraine's UN ambassador great speech

I liked the bit where he invited Putin to kill himself like Hitler did.

 

[beorhthelm]

The Ukrainian delegate to the UN has just asked the Assembly whether anyone actually voted in favour of accepting the Russian Federation into the UN to replace the Soviet Union (request made in a letter from Yeltsin). He asked for a show of hands. No-one put up their hands.

awkward.

 

[Greavsey]

How does this end? Increasingly clear that Ukraine are going to resist strongly even if they are ultimately "conquered". So how does this play out? - no way Putin will back down and lose face. He will only up the ante in the face of defeat. And I won't speculate what that would look like as it's too scary..

Controversial, but would our best outcome in the West have been for Ukraine to roll over and submit to Russian rule?

 

[Jeep]

Have you actually watched the channel ?!it's hardly Putin propaganda !!! Seems to be just showing what all the other western news channels are broadcasting

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For a dose of propoganda I'd suggest a look at Tass.com
More nonsense on there than at a Palace board meeting.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

How does this end? Increasingly clear that Ukraine are going to resist strongly even if they are ultimately "conquered". So how does this play out? - no way Putin will back down and lose face. He will only up the ante in the face of defeat. And I won't speculate what that would look like as it's too scary..

Controversial, but would our best outcome in the West have been for Ukraine to roll over and submit to Russian rule?

The best outcome is long gone.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

How does this end? Increasingly clear that Ukraine are going to resist strongly even if they are ultimately "conquered". So how does this play out? - no way Putin will back down and lose face. He will only up the ante in the face of defeat. And I won't speculate what that would look like as it's too scary..

Controversial, but would our best outcome in the West have been for Ukraine to roll over and submit to Russian rule?

Only in the short term

 

[BRIGHT ON Q]

How does this end? Increasingly clear that Ukraine are going to resist strongly even if they are ultimately "conquered". So how does this play out? - no way Putin will back down and lose face. He will only up the ante in the face of defeat. And I won't speculate what that would look like as it's too scary..

Controversial, but would our best outcome in the West have been for Ukraine to roll over and submit to Russian rule?

Only way is if Putin is removed by his own people.

 

[Greavsey]

The best outcome is long gone.

Ok, so what is the next best option!?

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Ok, so what is the next best option!?

Putin withdraws his army.