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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)









Doug-ees-evil

Well-known member
Nov 18, 2011
126
If you could guarantee one of Trump or Putin could meet that fate, which would you choose?

Putin for me.
Same. Putin.
Russia's sickness runs deep, through the elites/oligarchs and including a vast % of its population, who lap up the cruelty and imperialism – but the world will infinitely be a better place without this man.
 












rogersix

Well-known member
Jan 18, 2014
8,302
This is incoherent nonsense in response to simply pointing out certain NATO members are not in Starmer’s coalition of the willing.

This includes, amongst others, Italy, Poland and Germany. Most importantly of course it doesn’t include the US. Which means the very concept of a coalition of the willing is itself incoherent nonsence.

I can see where you get it from.
I'm starting to think you don't get this
 








rogersix

Well-known member
Jan 18, 2014
8,302
Fair enough, I understand that however they will only offer money and aid to Ukraine they won’t be sending in their forces as part of the coalition of the willing.

They know how to defend their country and act in its interests……..maybe it’s a “Donald” thing.

https://search.app/peeeBYaCipeD72W98

Germany may appear to be getting their arse in gear but Germany is still importing gas from Russia. They won’t bite that hand will they…….
You don't get this
 












Brian Munich

teH lulZ
Jul 7, 2008
668
People need to understand with absolute clarity that the US, under this administration, are not our friends or allies.
I don't think we can ever rely on them full-stop. It's all very well saying that it's just this administration, but let's not forget that he won 50% of the vote and subsequently a large electoral college victory. It's going to take years before we can trust the electorate of the US again, if ever.
 






fly high

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Aug 25, 2011
2,064
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Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
5,831
Mid Sussex
I don't think we can ever rely on them full-stop. It's all very well saying that it's just this administration, but let's not forget that he won 50% of the vote and subsequently a large electoral college victory. It's going to take years before we can trust the electorate of the US again, if ever.
It’s given Europe the impetus to break free from US ‘support’. The irony is that it will make Europe stronger and the US weaker. It will certainly ween ‘us’ off US defence companies. The likes of Boeing, Lockheed-Martin and general dynamics, to name a few, will be watching their bottom line shrink. For them to all to survive they need European markets …
 




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