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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)













Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
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Or they want peace. That's what Trump has said they want, so it must be true.

I suspect they will agree to a ceasefire, then a while later when they have built up a few more weapons and moved men around - will manufacture a fake attack in Russia, blame the Ukrainians and go again. Enabling Trump to blame Ukraine as well.
But does it matter. Trump is a busted flush.
 




Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
54,881
Goldstone
Yes, interesting. I guess it will partly depend on how much of the land they have captured they are 'allowed' to keep. If they keep quite a bit, they will see it as a 'success' and unless there are strong security guarantees for Ukraine - will just advance again later. My view anyway.

I imagine a ceasefire would mean the boundary is drawn where it currently is, including Ukraine continuing to occupy a part of Kursk.
 




Seagull58

In the Algarve
Jan 31, 2012
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Vilamoura, Portugal
The more this goes on the worse position the US are in.
1) Europe united and implementing a massive military expansion
2) Ukraine hitting Moscow
3) Russian breakout that wasn’t
4) Turkey flexing its muscles
5) putin quiet as a church mouse
6)china popping up in Ukraine following the Ukraine military
7) Canada and Mexico telling Trump to stuff his tariffs
8) US economy going down the toilet

Mag f***ing nificent
Please explain number 6. I've missed any mention of China.
 




Eric the meek

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Aug 24, 2020
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Yes, interesting. I guess it will partly depend on how much of the land they have captured they are 'allowed' to keep. If they keep quite a bit, they will see it as a 'success' and unless there are strong security guarantees for Ukraine - will just advance again later. My view anyway.
And it's a very valid view. We are all speculating on what the future may look like, so there is no right or wrong answer, as it hasn't happened yet.

Jonathan Fink, who runs the YT channel the Silicon Curtain, once likened Russia to water. He said it advances, taking the path of least resistance. You try to plug one leak, and it just finds another route.
 










A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
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Trump has invited Zelensky back to the White House......

(Let's hope that Vance will not be there).


Serious question, should someone in Europe “take the hit” and invite Vance over while Zelensky is in Washington? Get him to speak at the University of Warwick or something where he’s out of harm’s way
 












A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
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Maybe he'd like to speak at the Clacton social club 🤔
“What polarising, extreme, unacceptable racism“ said Vance to his team as he drove back up the A133
 
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