[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[rogersix]

Using frozen assets and/or the interest accrued from them is not an easy option. If think if it was it would have happened, however the legal precedent is significant and could undermine (amongst other matters) the stability of the euro.

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I think it will remain something the politicians talk about as a threat to Putin but in reality highly unlikely. Politicians eh……..

As ever, we live in unprecedented times

 

[GoldstoneVintage]

Remember the bloke who asked Zelensky why he wasn't wearing a suit? He is now a victim.

Good.

 

[highflyer]

I guess the problem with appropriating the Russian money is that we are a country of laws.

Say we (or we as a collection of countries) appropriated the money, gave it to Ukraine to spend, we could be held liable to pay the money back to Russia if a relevant court decided that we must.

Imagine being the politician who had to explain that we had to give £300bn of taxpayers money to Russia.

I think there is strong precedent for the UK gove
rnment to successfully defend such a case. But you're never 100% certain to win a legal action and we can't afford to lose, so realistically we'd have to settle, still at gargantuan cost.

As with so.many things (see also taxing wealth, bringing public services back into public ownership, spending more on defence) some things are always 'almost impossible' until they are aren't.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

As with so.many things (see also taxing wealth, bringing public services back into public ownership, spending more on defence) some things are always 'almost impossible' until they are aren't.

Yeh. I just think it's less about how possible it is and more about the risk involved

 

[papachris]

Remember the bloke who asked Zelensky why he wasn't wearing a suit? He is now a victim.

Maybe now he should reflect on why 'his actions' caused this 'reaction'.

 

[raymondo]

Remember the bloke who asked Zelensky why he wasn't wearing a suit? He is now a victim.

He's just playing the victim. Why did the BBC even give the shit airtime? I resent that use of my license fee.

 

[raymondo]

I guess the problem with appropriating the Russian money is that we are a country of laws.

Say we (or we as a collection of countries) appropriated the money, gave it to Ukraine to spend, we could be held liable to pay the money back to Russia if a relevant court decided that we must.

Imagine being the politician who had to explain that we had to give £300bn of taxpayers money to Russia.

I think there is strong precedent for the UK government to successfully defend such a case. But you're never 100% certain to win a legal action and we can't afford to lose, so realistically we'd have to settle, still at gargantuan cost.

It;s a fair point.

 

[raymondo]

Maybe now he should reflect on why 'his actions' caused this 'reaction'.

He'll double down, Trump will pay for any real protection he needs, and he'll keep to the paid agenda...which is to belittle and demean Zelenskiy.

 

[highflyer]

His own fault. He should have expressed more gratitude for the opportunity to ask a question.

 

[Eric the meek]

He's just playing the victim. Why did the BBC even give the shit airtime? I resent that use of my license fee.

It may possibly lessen the bark of the unelected attack dogs, should Zelensky decide to return to the Oval Office.

 

[Braggfan]

I guess the problem with appropriating the Russian money is that we are a country of laws.

Say we (or we as a collection of countries) appropriated the money, gave it to Ukraine to spend, we could be held liable to pay the money back to Russia if a relevant court decided that we must.

Imagine being the politician who had to explain that we had to give £300bn of taxpayers money to Russia.

I think there is strong precedent for the UK government to successfully defend such a case. But you're never 100% certain to win a legal action and we can't afford to lose, so realistically we'd have to settle, still at gargantuan cost.

I think its a very easy emotional response to think we should just appropriate that money. I know I've certainly feel that way. But that's an excellent point you make, and very likely why we haven't gone down that road. Especially now with everything Trump is now doing. It would be very easy to see him making waves and dishing out punitive measures to anyone who had appropriated that money.

 

[Brian Munich]

Remember the bloke who asked Zelensky why he wasn't wearing a suit? He is now a victim.

Someone fetch me the Windsor Davies meme.

 

[Eric the meek]

Another sign the EU means business and is preparing for the future:

 

[rippleman]

Another sign the EU means business and is preparing for the future:

Just sling the facist dictator and his minions out of the EU

 

[Monsieur Le Plonk]

I think its a very easy emotional response to think we should just appropriate that money. I know I've certainly feel that way. But that's an excellent point you make, and very likely why we haven't gone down that road. Especially now with everything Trump is now doing. It would be very easy to see him making waves and dishing out punitive measures to anyone who had appropriated that money.

Agree with what you say. I just wonder what will happen with all that cash. Does it just sit there earning interest until Trump orders it to be given to Putin as part of his 'peace' plan? That would help Putins rearmament coffers somewhat.

 

[Eric the meek]

Just sling the facist dictator and his minions out of the EU

They've obviously had enough of him, and can't afford to allow him to veto or delay important decisions, so they are moving now.

No doubt Vance will say it's undemocratic.

 

[SouthSaxon]

I think it’s a very easy emotional response to think we should just appropriate that money. I know I've certainly feel that way. But that's an excellent point you make, and very likely why we haven't gone down that road. Especially now with everything Trump is now doing. It would be very easy to see him making waves and dishing out punitive measures to anyone who had appropriated that money.

He won’t if it’s used to buy US weapons and reduce Europe’s trade deficit. An easy win for the narcissist that also helps Ukraine.

 

[SouthSaxon]

Another sign the EU means business and is preparing for the future:

Yep, this is a good sign. Orban is a paralysing force and it’s essential they take him out of the picture.

 

[peterward]

Remember the bloke who asked Zelensky why he wasn't wearing a suit? He is now a victim.

He's just playing the victim. Why did the BBC even give the shit airtime? I resent that use of my license fee.

Mrs sent me a few of these types of clips yesterday, theyre on instagram if you have it? (hopefully you can still view it).

Its started a viral craze in Ukraine of people post mock videos of getting dressed up in suits etc to go to shelters when sirens sound. This is one such video.

 

[Cordwainer]

Remember the bloke who asked Zelensky why he wasn't wearing a suit? He is now a victim.

What’s this? Another thin skinned bully not liking it up him?
Snowflake.