[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[SouthSaxon]

Bleak pessimists view;

Russia won’t cause any issues whilst there’s American contractors in Ukraine mining, but the moment the well runs dry and the Americans leave, it’s open season again in 4 years time after Russia’s economy and military has recovered.

They might have those microwave weapons they’ve tried in the past near to hand though

 

[peterward]

They might have those microwave weapons they’ve tried in the past near to hand though

Whatever the Russians say and whatever the Russians sign, they will continue to be a malign influence and cannot be trusted.

 

[SouthSaxon]

Whatever the Russians say and whatever the Russians sign, they will continue to be a malign influence and cannot be trusted.

Except with Trump though. Then Putin keeps to his word

 

[Nobby]

Every morning when I wake up, I check my phone, to see who has posted what on here, and I find that Cunning Fergus has posted another polemic on the futility of facing up to Russia.

People need to stop engaging with the little prat.
Then he might just beggar off

 

[Triggaaar]

Ukraine agrees US minerals deal after Washington drops toughest demands

Kyiv hopes agreement on jointly exploring resources will improve relations with Trump administration

www.ft.com

Un-paywalled

https://archive.ph/968bf

That's basically a lot of hot air, just so the sides can say they've agreed a deal.

 

[Triggaaar]

Bleak pessimists view;

Russia won’t cause any issues whilst there’s American contractors in Ukraine mining, but the moment the well runs dry and the Americans leave, it’s open season again in 4 years time after Russia’s economy and military has recovered.

I think it would be a bad idea for Ukraine to agree to a ceasefire, unless they get into NATO or similar. A ceasefire would just allow Russia to arm and prepare to go again. Any infrastructure rebuilding Ukraine attempted, would just be flattened again when Russia are ready.

 

[Sirnormangall]

Ukraine agrees US minerals deal after Washington drops toughest demands

Kyiv hopes agreement on jointly exploring resources will improve relations with Trump administration

www.ft.com

Un-paywalled

https://archive.ph/968bf

I may have missed it but I couldn’t see mention of whether the deal included minerals in Ukrainian territory currently occupied by Russia - which would of course require Trump to persuade his new best friend to withdraw

 

[maffew]

I may have missed it but I couldn’t see mention of whether the deal included minerals in Ukrainian territory currently occupied by Russia - which would of course require Trump to persuade his new best friend to withdraw

That'd be good, say to Trump the good stuffs in the West of country. Probably would say great deal

 

[Mancgull]

Bleak pessimists view;

Russia won’t cause any issues whilst there’s American contractors in Ukraine mining, but the moment the well runs dry and the Americans leave, it’s open season again in 4 years time after Russia’s economy and military has recovered.

I agree but think the mining is going to take a lot longer than 4 years and by then Putin may no longer be around.

 

[maffew]

Next stop is Tesla branches into graphite and lithium mining.

 

[armchairclubber]

On what terms Ukraine settle, I agree.

But we do have a vested interest in seeing Putin fall..the man who used Polonium 210 in London and then Novichok in Salisbury.

He threatens Baltics, he's constantly undermining our democracies and funding every party that seeks to destroy western societies.

He's a menace and the world will be a much better place once he's burning in hell

Well, I have heard a song that says that you are the Lord.

 

[Binney on acid]

The words 'ceasefire' and 'Russian Federation' in the same sentence ?

 

[Triggaaar]

I agree but think the mining is going to take a lot longer than 4 years and by then Putin may no longer be around.

Just as importantly, hopefully Trump won't be

 

[peterward]

Next stop is Tesla branches into graphite and lithium mining.

 

[GoldstoneVintage]

This is from a former CIA analyst re: 'Krasnov'

A Deeper Look at Claims by KGB Officer that Trump was Recruited by Soviet Intelligence in the 1980s

I'm a Former CIA Russia Specialist -- Here's My Take

open.substack.com