[News] Russia at it again ? Litvenenko #2 ?

[portlock seagull]

Don't believe everything you hear in UK media, you sound like a daily mail reader whose gunning for a war with Russia, UK is not as clean and pure as you think it is when it comes to Russia.

I’m not, but even if I was, at best you sound pig ignorant on this subject matter.

 

[portlock seagull]

No-one has said that. Stop exaggerating and repeating the same thing

I’m just not ok with state sponsored assassinations takimg place in the UK that are particularly cruel and a danger to the wider public. No exaggeration here. Perhaps some denial / worryingly lack of concern from many across the UK but then we live in a multi cultural society these days and furthermore others were still playing cricket as the first troops arrived back from Dunkirk.

 

[Dave the OAP]

This statement seems to be in conflict with the rest of your post!!!

Not at all...I don't know one way or another, as everyone on here doesn't, but it does seem odd that it has gone very quiet after all the sabre rattling that went on.

It's not a conspiracy theory, just curiosity

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Bound to be an England Russia semi-final now isn't it?

written in the stars.

Having said that I'll still be amazed if Croatia don't beat them

 

[Perfidious Albion]

Seems the guy is a known junkie and a convicted drug dealer, makes you wonder what is going on

I wonder where this was claimed ? From the Beeb they apear church going respectable types.
I , for one , am going to agree with Publius......after the death of David Kelly, who knows what to believe?

 

[Napper]

But it’s the best ever World Cup, can’t we just forgive them, Russia are our friends, they’re just so lovely and want selfies with us, our (free) media and (democratic) government are the real villains for being nasty to dear Mr Putin, we’ve got it all wrong, as a tourist visiting St Petersburg I know all there is to know about the geopolitics...

Wake up Britain. This is another reminder of a deeply disturbing attack on our sovereignty by the Russian state. Whether intended this time or not.

if you believe what you are told by the media yes .

Besides ,in relation to this ..... if someone betrays the KGB or whatever then why cant Russia take actions against whoever , regardless of the country. Live by the sword , die by the sword.

 

[portlock seagull]

if you believe what you are told by the media yes .

Besides ,in relation to this ..... if someone betrays the KGB or whatever then why cant Russia take actions against whoever , regardless of the country. Live by the sword , die by the sword.

Interested to know where your info comes from? It’s such a boresome argument dismissing everything in the media as untrue. Not to mention more than a bit stupid. And doesn’t exactly lend credit to an opinion. Quite the opposite. Still it seems to work for Trump, he just labels anything he doesn’t like as fake news and Americans in their millions are happy to go along with. Especially the dumbest.

Regardless, comrade, sounds like you’d fit right into a totalitarian regime like Russia with those views, safe in the knowledge that if you ever changed them, you’d likely ‘disappear’

 

[Klaas]

written in the stars.

Having said that I'll still be amazed if Croatia don't beat them

The novichok needle match

 

[Half Time Pies]

if you believe what you are told by the media yes .

Besides ,in relation to this ..... if someone betrays the KGB or whatever then why cant Russia take actions against whoever , regardless of the country. Live by the sword , die by the sword.

Because its not OK to be wafting around a banned nerve agent in a sleepy market town and injuring, as well as the targets, a police officer and 2 randoms

The act was clearly designed to make a statement and/ or prompt a response.

 

[Eeyore]

The novichok needle match

Novichok could be a player on either side.

 

[Jackthelad]

I’m not, but even if I was, at best you sound pig ignorant on this subject matter.

Just a bit of advice, put the Daily Mail down and you might progress in life.

 

[portlock seagull]

Just a bit of advice, put the Daily Mail down and you might progress in life.

Bit presumptuous! I mean the bit about heeding advice from you. As if....!!!

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1016060845892268033?s=19

RIP.

Where do we go from here ?

 

[LamieRobertson]

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1016060845892268033?s=19

RIP.

Where do we go from here ?

As I understand it a murder investigation has been launched...so 'we' wait for the results of that ..of course in the meantime people will speculate as can be seen from that link

 

[AmexRuislip]

War.. potentially.

It's an act of terrorism, that should be dealt with the UK cutting all necessary ties with Russia, together with crippling sanctions against them, alongside strong United Nation support. IMO

 

[Ninja Elephant]

It's an act of terrorism, that should be dealt with the UK cutting all necessary ties with Russia, together with crippling sanctions against them, alongside strong United Nation support. IMO

With what aim?

 

[AmexRuislip]

With what aim?

To show that this sort of sh!t is not going to tolerated, better than going to war!

 

[RexCathedra]

Equipped as I am with the Internet, and a timeline on Twitter that's full of totally woke MAGAts, I now can reveal the truth.

The so-called 'novichok' isn't Russian, it's British, straight out of Porson Downs. No connection with Russia.
This episode was actually planned by UK and other deep state actors in the Five Eyes community, to blacken the Russians before Trump's triumphant visit with Putin.
It will have the side effect of causing Trump's ground-breaking US visit to be called off given fears of his safety.
His rapturous reception by the British people must be forestalled before it appears in media all over the world.
It's all a vain attempt to keep Trump from recasting the post-war order in Europe, and causing a new dawn of peace and friendship with Russia.
It's all of a piece with deep state actors now causing Trump's path-breaking peace promotion with North Korea to fail.

The truth is out there, people....

 

[Worried Man Blues]

It's an act of terrorism, that should be dealt with the UK cutting all necessary ties with Russia, together with crippling sanctions against them, alongside strong United Nation support. IMO

Wait till after the final?

 

[scamander]

having read a bit about this there are some problems in having Russia as the sole actor in this, other countries have these chemical agents (US and Israel for example).

The part I find most interesting is that in order to weaponise it you need to mix the ingredients, it would be very difficult and extremely dangerous to smuggle the complete agent in. Far easier and safer to bring in the ingredients but then you need to mix them and this requires very high levels of skill and technical equipment.

This morning the MP for Salisbury alluded to the victim as having a dependency issue, he mentioned how she was known to search through bins. Presumably this is how she might have come into contact with the agen?. There's a good article about it (including an interview with a Russian who helped develop it) on the evolve politics website (google 'evolve politics' and novichok').

There is a lot which isn't known and these gaps in information are what nourish conspiracy theories. As ever they all get grouped together, which doesn't help things. These are many people with many theories, some highly outlandish and others not as much.