Dick Knights Mumm
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They would have had to brake pretty sharpish to stop. Anyway how does their action reflect on other cyclists - but the driver's action is his as an individual.
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They would have had to brake pretty sharpish to stop. Anyway how does their action reflect on other cyclists - but the driver's action is his as an individual.
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Both idiots then. Car for driving in the Bus Lane, and cyclists for running the lights. Good spot.
vegster
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Oh dear, so, if they were clocked by a policeman going through a red light their defence would be " Sorry Officer, we were going to fast to stop "
It upholds the argument about cyclists breaking the highway code with impunity. Both could have, and, should have stopped if they had been " Reading the Road ". If they could not stop under control in that distance maybe they should be traveling slower in the first place ?
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Dick Knights Mumm
Take me Home Falmer Road
Oh dear, so, if they were clocked by a policeman going through a red light their defence would be " Sorry Officer, we were going to fast to stop "
It upholds the argument about cyclists breaking the highway code with impunity. Both could have, and, should have stopped if they had been " Reading the Road ". If they could not stop under control in that distance maybe they should be traveling slower in the first place ?
I have no axe to grind here. Just putting an alternative view. I have been been in both situations on a bike and a car and have made a decision to carry on rather than stop suddenly at a changing traffic light.
symyjym
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I don't have a problem with cyclist going through red pedestrian crossing lights if it is clear of pedestians.
But yeah that car driver was an idiot.
Traffic lights are designed so that if you can't stop in the time it's going orange, you ARE going too fast.
B.W.
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Why? Would you be OK with a car doing it in the same circumstances?
symyjym
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I said "I don't have a problem with cyclist going through red pedestrian crossing lights if it is clear of pedestians."
vegster
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And we are back to square one again !
so, anyone else allowed to make up the rules as they go along ?
B.W.
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.... And I asked you if you would be OK with a car doing the same thing in the same circumstances? I suspect not.
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And we are back to square one again !
No, only cyclists, apparently. Remarkable arrogance.
symyjym
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And we are back to square one again !
That's not really what I'm saying. If I see a bike doing it, I am not sitting in my car getting angry, therefore I do not have a problem with it. I am not talking about traffic lights at junctions, just lights at a pedestrian crossing when there is no one crossing.
When I am a pedestrian at a pedestrian crossing, if the road is clear I will not press the button to get a green man, I will progress even though the man is red.
How do you use a pedestrian crossing as a pedestian?
symyjym
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When you are a pedestrian at pedestrian crossings, do you always press the button and wait for a green man?
That's not comparable at all to breaking the law by running through a red light.
symyjym
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It is not that dissimilar, what does a red man mean?
I am sure it clearly states "Never cross while the red man is showing."
I agree that it is overlooked as a strict rule, but if you get knocked over when crossing the road without a green man indicated it would be your fault.
How do you ever cross the road when there aren't any traffic lights around?
symyjym
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Where there is no pedestrian crossing there is no red man to instruct you, but if you are specifically using a pedestrian crossing it should be used in the way it was intended and designed.
Dick Knights Mumm
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Which of course you never do.
I doubt there is a driver reading this who has not made the same decision. That is what happens.
Of course I have occasionally - including one time I got 3 points for doing so. But every time, I realised I was going too fast and had made an error of judgment.
Have you any statistics to back that up? I would suggest that, at some stage, most drivers break the law. Go on a motorway and see how many drivers are sticking to 70mph!
As for some of the other comments, I believe I am correct in saying that, rather like the Pirates Code in Pirates of the Caribbean, the code is not the law, just a set of guidelines. The law is in fact the Road Traffic Act with it's various amendments in which some of the penalties are based on the guidelines in the Highway Code.
With regard to pedestrian crossings, there is no law that states you must not cross when a 'red man' is showing however it is against the law for a motorist or cyclist to go through the corresponding red light. With regard to the amber light, you only stop if it is safe to do so. However, there is no excuse for not stopping when it changes red. There should be adequate time to slow down and stop whilst the light is amber so you don't cross the solid white line as the light turns red.