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[Barrel of Fun]

There was a documentary (can't remember the name). Greenpeace were tracking some whalers, near Japan, and there was an accident which resulted in the death of a whaler. They managed to offer sympathy and were visually moved by the death. Surely these four deserve the same sort of respect..? I don't agree with the culling of the seals, but it is WRONG to rejoice in the deaths of these men.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Hans

It is not a legal livelihood as far as I am concerned and you are assumption they are all family men has been thrown that into the mix for emotional effect. If there was a report saying 4 Mugabe henchmen killed when car crashed on the way to slaughter 100 men , women and children would you then think I was wrong to not shed a tear at their death. I hold the rights of these Seals in the same way simplistic I know but its how I feel.

Kinds regards and respect for your views.

US

That's a very very odd post from somebody who used the term 'emotional propoganda' a few minutes ago.

I would not shed a tear for those men though, no. However, dress it up however you like, men raping, and killing innocent women and children, is NOT on a par, with men LEGALLY culling seals.

I called them family men as that is what they were. One had a 2 year old daughter. One was the father of one of the survivors.

Now, about these horse racing questions? Is your computer playing up? Can you only see every second post in this thread?

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

My emotions got the better of me and I retract my comment, apologies. With regard to the Horse Racing issue I agree my stance may seem hypocritical and I am working on a response that will make sense to you.

 

[Chicken Run]

My emotions got the better of me and I retract my comment, apologies. With regard to the Horse Racing issue I agree my stance may seem hypocritical and I am working on a response that will make sense to you.

How's the response coming along, looks at watch!

 

[Man of Harveys]

I want that response and I want it NOW. I can barely contain my excitement. *bullying*

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

Pipe Down Colin.

 

[Simster]

My emotions got the better of me and I retract my comment, apologies. With regard to the Horse Racing issue I agree my stance may seem hypocritical and I am working on a response that will make sense to you.

There is no "may seem" about it. Your stance IS hypocritical, and a complete load of drivel. And here it is for those of you who can't be arsed to read the thread:

Two family men die whilst undertaking their legal rights to cull seals, which are then sold for meat and clothing. This is the "best news" Gareth has had all day.
Meanwhile, hundreds of horses die in the persuit of sport every year, but that's OK for reasons he can't or won't explain.
Gareth has also likened those seal cullers to people who undertake mass genocide.




I wonder why people like Laura always disagree with you Gareth?

 

[hans kraay fan club]

I'm looking forward to it too. I want to see how anyone can find killing seals for FOOD and pelts abhorent, but shooting healthy horses because they cannot run fast, acceptable, without straying just a TEENCY bit into the realms of hypocracy.

 

[Mtoto]

Hans

It is not a legal livelihood as far as I am concerned and you are assumption they are all family men has been thrown that into the mix for emotional effect. If there was a report saying 4 Mugabe henchmen killed when car crashed on the way to slaughter 100 men , women and children would you then think I was wrong to not shed a tear at their death. I hold the rights of these Seals in the same way simplistic I know but its how I feel.

Kinds regards and respect for your views.

US

Sorry Uncle but your moral objections are irrelevant to the basic statement of fact that hunting seals is a legal livelihood in Canada.

In India, there are millions of people who consider cows sacred and would not dream of killing one, for food or anything else. Here, we consider to them to be lunch, but while they might find it repugnant on a moral or spiritual level, I suspect that few, if any, of those millions would try to argue against it - or delight in the death of a meat-eating Briton - on the basis that eating cows in Britain is not a "legal" pursuit.

 

[Buzzer]

Also, it's a bit rich to start claiming "emotional propaganda" when the people who want to ban it post pictures of the grisly process of killing the pups for the sake of shocking us into thinking it's wrong.

Bloody? Yes.
Would I do it? No

but then again, I wouldn't work in an abbatoir either.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

There is no "may seem" about it. Your stance IS hypocritical, and a complete load of drivel. And here it is for those of you who can't be arsed to read the thread:

Two family men die whilst undertaking their legal rights to cull seals, which are then sold for meat and clothing. This is the "best news" Gareth has had all day.
Meanwhile, hundreds of horses die in the persuit of sport every year, but that's OK for reasons he can't or won't explain.
Gareth has also likened those seal cullers to people who undertake mass genocide.




I wonder why people like Laura always disagree with you Gareth?

I will not get into a reasoned debate with you Simster as you do not want a reasoned debate. I have my views you have yours but this is just going to become another excess for bored people with nothing better to do to gang up on someone with a different viewpoint but thats NSC all over.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

Also, it's a bit rich to start claiming "emotional propaganda" when the people who want to ban it post pictures of the grisly process of killing the pups for the sake of shocking us into thinking it's wrong.

Bloody? Yes.
Would I do it? No

but then again, I wouldn't work in an abbatoir either.

I didn't do that Buzzer I think you will find.

 

[Chicken Run]

Oh well no response then, never mind

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

I accept I played into the hands of the baying masses of NSC by posing a rash comment I since retracted but its not about opinions now just bullying and ganging up, so I do not see any point in feeding the fire anymore. Good day.

 

[Buzzer]

I didn't do that Buzzer I think you will find.

Okay. Not you specifically but it was posted and it was (IMO) posted to get a reaction of look how awful it is.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

BOF did the postings of the photos not me.

 

[Simster]

I will not get into a reasoned debate with you Simster as you do not want a reasoned debate. I have my views you have yours but this is just going to become another excess for bored people with nothing better to do to gang up on someone with a different viewpoint but thats NSC all over.

It's nothing to do with "ganging up" on anyone. At the end of the day, you've done your usual thing of providing an opinion without being able to back it up. Not surprising really, because you're talking rubbish.

What have I said in that post which is incorrect? Go on, tell me. Because you're accusing me of ganging up on you and I'd like to know how.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

I don’t see how posting pictures of the scenes can be deemed as ‘propaganda’, any more so than newspaper articles or musings from people’s own opinions. My main objection to this is that there are an estimated 150,000 seals that are hit, but not killed instantly, some of which escape and die a slow and painful death.

I wonder how people who are in favour of this seal cull would feel if British Farmers walked around their barns swinging pick axes at all the chickens or lambs..?

 

[Simster]

I don’t see how posting pictures of the scenes can be deemed as ‘propaganda’, any more so than newspaper articles or musings from people’s own opinions. My main objection to this is that there are an estimated 150,000 seals that are hit, but not killed instantly, some of which escape and die a slow and painful death.

I wonder how people who are in favour of this seal cull would feel if British Farmers walked around their barns swinging pick axes at all the chickens or lambs..?

If it wasn't for the blood and guts it would leave, I doubt they'd give a toss. Afterall, it's seemingly taken the good old British public DECADES to even consider that farming battery hens might be slightly wrong...

 

[Man of Harveys]

I'm with Gavin on this. You lot are such terrible awful BULLIES - I think someone should remake Schindler's List but featuring SEALS instead of PEOPLE.