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Ricky Gervais in a spot of bother



Uncle Spielberg

Well-known member
Jul 6, 2003
43,097
Lancing
Ricky Gervais criticised over Twitter 'mong jokes'

Ricky Gervais has been criticised by disability groups for repeated use of the word "mong" on his Twitter feed.

The comedian's recent tweets have included phrases like "Good monging everyone", "Night night monglets" and "Two mongs don't make a right".

The word is sometimes used offensively about people with Down's Syndrome.

Mencap said using it could reinforce prejudice but Gervais insists the word has changed meaning and that he never meant to refer to people with Down's.

The Office star criticised "the humourless PC brigade" on his Twitter feed and said the term is now commonly used to refer to someone who is very stupid or idiotic.

Continue reading the main story We want people to know that such language can perpetuate discriminatory attitudes towards disabled people
Mark Gale

Mencap campaigns and policy officer
"The modern use of the word mong means 'dopey' or 'ignorant'," said Gervais in a statement. "It's even in modern slang and urban dictionaries."

On Sunday, he tweeted: "Well done everyone who pointed out that Mong USED to be a derogatory term for DS [Down's Syndrome], Gay USED to mean happy. Words change. Get over it."

However, disability charity Mencap called Gervais's tweets "very disappointing".

Campaigns and policy officer Mark Gale said: "When people in the public eye use words of this type [it] can be offensive to people with a disability and their families.

"We want people to know that such language can perpetuate discriminatory attitudes towards disabled people."

Down Syndrome Education International also said it was concerned and claimed many people would find it just as bad as offensive language related to race or sexual orientation.

It is also not the first time the 50-year-old has got into hot water for using the word.

During a 2010 stand-up show he used it to describe singer Susan Boyle, but following criticism again made it clear he was not intending to refer to people with Down's Syndrome.
 








Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,952
Surrey
He's spot on about the changing meaning of the word. To be honest, I always think a good rule of thumb is to try not to take offence if you know the intent isn't there. It's all about growing a thicker skin.
 


brunswick

New member
Aug 13, 2004
2,920
cant say anything in england anymore..............if he went up to someone with DS and said "you are a mong" i understand, but if he posts the word on his twitter and gets canned for it, it is nuts.
 








JamesAndTheGiantHead

Well-known member
Sep 2, 2011
6,349
Worthing
He's explained himself time and time again and still the press ignore his perspective and rationale and go with their 'shock' headlines. The man has nothing answer for, and is one of our greatest ever comedians.
 




n1 gull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
4,639
Hurstpierpoint
He's explained himself time and time again and still the press ignore his perspective and rationale and go with their 'shock' headlines. The man has nothing answer for, and is one of our greatest ever comedians.

this is what is known as the correct answer
 




Billy the Fish

Technocrat
Oct 18, 2005
17,594
Haywards Heath
Does anyone remember Gervais' original guise on the 11 o'clock show? The whole point of that character was to be offensive as possible. He was unknown then so it wouldn't have been picked up upon.

As it is he won't be in any bother about this, he's too clever to fuel the daily mail let's get offended by everything brigade
 




bhaexpress

New member
Jul 7, 2003
27,627
Kent
He's explained himself time and time again and still the press ignore his perspective and rationale and go with their 'shock' headlines. The man has nothing answer for, and is one of our greatest ever comedians.

Most people know that the press with take anything out of context to get a headline and still millions of people by crap like The Sun.
 


Kumquat

New member
Mar 2, 2009
4,459
Does anyone remember Gervais' original guise on the 11 o'clock show? The whole point of that character was to be offensive as possible. He was unknown then so it wouldn't have been picked up upon.

As it is he won't be in any bother about this, he's too clever to fuel the daily mail let's get offended by everything brigade

That was brilliant stuff. Remember him slagging off some group and then smiling genially and saying ".......and next week. The lesbians!"
 






magoo

New member
Jul 8, 2003
6,682
United Kingdom
To be fair he never said "Two mongs don't make a right". Someone else tweeted it to him.

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Sheebo

Well-known member
Jul 13, 2003
29,319
I love Gervais. And having read this I accept he doesn't mean the term as a dig at someone with DS. Lesson learnt a little as it's def a subject close to my heart. I do notice a lot of people on here (incl mods) who use the word and it did annoy me a lot as I assumed it was meant as a derogatory term for people with DS. However if the words meaning is changing maybe i'll not be so bothered about it... However I pretty sure 90% of people using it on here didn't know there was this supposed 'new meaning'. Same goes with 'spaz' or 'retard' which many like to throw in a lot on NSC.
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,273
He's explained himself time and time again and still the press ignore his perspective and rationale and go with their 'shock' headlines. The man has nothing answer for, and is one of our greatest ever comedians.

I think you have just upstaged him !
 








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