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[Albion] Replacing Graham Potter (eventually)



dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
55,533
Burgess Hill
I stopped playing local football at 36 (probably to a round of applause,as i was never any good) but i joined a local cricket team and had some remarkable success,who`d of guessed ?. But while i could bowl pretty reasonably against players of the same quality,when a friend got me a couple of games in a higher league i was out of my depth .I believe the higher you have played and the tougher the opposition the more workable knowledge you gain .You have to be there see it and have done it ,not just seen it at a lower level and think that qualifies you at any level . Whether you or i like it or not ,the men`s game is a completely different animal to the women`s game .

As you have said plenty of the women`s teams managers are men and some are successful,some obviously not,but i wouldn`t want any of the successful men to be our next manager either . I think it is a case of horses for courses in our great game .

Explain how Arsene Wenger fits your view :shrug:
 




Mackenzie

Old Brightonian
Nov 7, 2003
34,009
East Wales
BDEC27E2-DA09-4DB6-B05E-72B192215C9C.jpgIt could be Bruno, but I think he’d need to take himself off to another club to learn to manage.

It’s funny when he was stood on the half way line with GP watching the FGR keeper warm up, it struck me that he’d do really well managing a team like FGR. So yes maybe Bruno eventually.

Whatever happens though, TB will be well ahead of the curve I’m sure.
 


Tyrone Biggums

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Jun 25, 2006
13,498
Geelong, Australia
One bit of promising insight to how he thinks was that in a recent podcast interviewing Potter. When asked about the England job he didn't seem that keen on it as a reality.

Said he loves the day to day workings of the job and that in the England job you don't get that when you only have the players for limited amounts of time.
 


TugWilson

I gotta admit that I`m a little bit confused
Dec 8, 2020
1,721
Dorset
Explain how Arsene Wenger fits your view :shrug:

If you mean AW wasn`t the greatest of players fine,but how good or bad he was isn`t the point,the point is that he was involved with and played against some of the best players around ,albeit in a very short career . But if he played 1 game in the men`s leagues ,that`s 1 more than any woman manager or player !.
 






Jul 20, 2003
20,680
given that there have been a couple of lengthy spells when the majority wanted rid of him ....
 


OzMike

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Oct 2, 2006
13,280
Perth Australia
I hope he is a Fergie type, who stays due to continuing success.
If we get to Europe on a few occasions then why leave.
 


Baldseagull

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Jan 26, 2012
11,839
Crawley
If you mean AW wasn`t the greatest of players fine,but how good or bad he was isn`t the point,the point is that he was involved with and played against some of the best players around ,albeit in a very short career . But if he played 1 game in the men`s leagues ,that`s 1 more than any woman manager or player !.

I never realised that to be a jockey you had to be a horse first.
 




Kalimantan Gull

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Aug 13, 2003
13,437
Central Borneo / the Lizard
If you mean AW wasn`t the greatest of players fine,but how good or bad he was isn`t the point,the point is that he was involved with and played against some of the best players around ,albeit in a very short career . But if he played 1 game in the men`s leagues ,that`s 1 more than any woman manager or player !.

Arsene Wenger only ever played amateur football. So did Sven Goran Eriksson who retired from playing at 27. Roy Hodgson only ever played non league football in Kent. Jose Mourinho was a reserve team player for most of his brief career, going to university at age 24 and moving into coaching. Thomas Frank's entire career in football has been as a coach. Meanwhile some of the best players of all time have been terrible at management. Emma Hayes has never played league football but led her Chelsea team to win the league the last three seasons in a row.

By taking a fourth division side in Sweden up the leagues and into the Europa Cup, Potter has shown that managerial nous can trump football experience, like Wenger, Eriksson, Hodgson, Mourinho, Frank and Hayes. In Potter we have a manager who is showing that excellent man management skills and exceptional tactical planning are recipes for success. That's the kind of manager I want to take over when the time comes.

You may not think the women I've mentioned are good enough for the job, and that's fine, but it shouldn't be on the basis of the number of men's football matches they've played.
 




TugWilson

I gotta admit that I`m a little bit confused
Dec 8, 2020
1,721
Dorset
Arsene Wenger only ever played amateur football. So did Sven Goran Eriksson who retired from playing at 27. Roy Hodgson only ever played non league football in Kent. Jose Mourinho was a reserve team player for most of his brief career, going to university at age 24 and moving into coaching. Thomas Frank's entire career in football has been as a coach. Meanwhile some of the best players of all time have been terrible at management. Emma Hayes has never played league football but led her Chelsea team to win the league the last three seasons in a row.

By taking a fourth division side in Sweden up the leagues and into the Europa Cup, Potter has shown that managerial nous can trump football experience, like Wenger, Eriksson, Hodgson, Mourinho, Frank and Hayes. In Potter we have a manager who is showing that excellent man management skills and exceptional tactical planning are recipes for success. That's the kind of manager I want to take over when the time comes.

You may not think the women I've mentioned are good enough for the job, and that's fine, but it shouldn't be on the basis of the number of men's football matches they've played.

I say again "MENS LEAGUES" , the women`s WC winners were battered 5-2 by a BOYS u15 side , i tried to put it politely but if the WC winners coached by a woman cant beat a kids team i dont want a woman anywhere near the Brighton job .
 




TugWilson

I gotta admit that I`m a little bit confused
Dec 8, 2020
1,721
Dorset
I never realised that to be a jockey you had to be a horse first.

You of all people should know the answer to that after all,you know what i`m trying to say but still act like a horses arse because you think it`s fun to be a wum .
 










Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
I'm certain Bruno is being trained up for the job - whether he'll be ready or not depends on the timing.

Rosenior could be another on the shortlist, along with a couple more recommended by the Star Lizard data algorithm.
 


TugWilson

I gotta admit that I`m a little bit confused
Dec 8, 2020
1,721
Dorset
The precise point you've been trying to get across is that Wiegman wouldn’t last 5 minutes against dugout hard men Conte and Tuchel?

What precisely does that mean?
Actually it was your original comment not mine,i just answered it in my way as an example.

Leave Men`s football alone !. It has done just fine for 165 years it doesn`t need a makeover from women. Equality in sport does not mean we need 10 male and 10 female top flight managers ,some of the new women commentators we now have are terrible,and a lot of you know this ,but we aren`t allowed to say it - that would be sexist ! .
 


Bakero

Languidly clinical
Oct 9, 2010
14,883
Almería
I say again "MENS LEAGUES" , the women`s WC winners were battered 5-2 by a BOYS u15 side , i tried to put it politely but if the WC winners coached by a woman cant beat a kids team i dont want a woman anywhere near the Brighton job .

You know that a female manager wouldn't be required to field female players right?

What exactly is it you think a woman couldn't do?
Run training drills?
Formulate tactics?
Analyse the opposition?
Motivate the team?
Man management?

I don't see it happening anytime soon at the top level but don't see why a woman couldn't do any of these things.
 




TugWilson

I gotta admit that I`m a little bit confused
Dec 8, 2020
1,721
Dorset
You know that a female manager wouldn't be required to field female players right?

What exactly is it you think a woman couldn't do?
Run training drills?
Formulate tactics?
Analyse the opposition?
Motivate the team?
Man management?

I don't see it happening anytime soon at the top level but don't see why a woman couldn't do any of these things.

I agree ,just not in the MENS game ,omo but i am sticking with it ,if you choose to be offended by that, that is on you not me.
 


Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
The precise point you've been trying to get across is that Wiegman wouldn’t last 5 minutes against dugout hard men Conte and Tuchel?

What precisely does that mean?

The Tuchel grab handshake? :lolol:

I’d love to see a woman in charge of a PL team personally. Cherie Lunghi was pretty good at it wasn’t she? Seriously there is no logical reason why a woman couldn’t do a good job is there?
 


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