Religious intolerance and bigotry

[bhaexpress]

I'm not saying the stories don't exist, just saying he can post these examples without flooding the board.

So many people on here have stock posts that they put up whenever topics come up, why can't Juan post a "this is why religion is good" every time someone brings up something anti-religion?

It's probably because he can't be bothered to argue with people who will never be convinced. In the same way that 'believers' will quote statements out of context non believers will do the same.

In fairness to all the believers on here I have never seen one incidence of one of them starting a thread about their beliefs. They merely respond to those who knock them which they are perfectly entitled to do.

 

[glasfryn]

as opposed to kindly old open minded muslims ? I cannot believe this post wasn't intended to be anything other than supremely ironic.

I don't like any type of fanaticism wherever it might come from,I suppose as you get older you mellow, probably because as I did move on in life I picked up friends from all walks of life and living in Brighton most of my life there was a good cross section of people.

the only people I cannot abide is animal abusers,child abusers and to show that I do always listen to the other side of the arguement I even voted tory once.

 

[itszamora]

In case you haven't notices homophobia is not a preserve of any particular religion. There's no shortage of heathens who don't approve either.

No, you're quite right. This all initially comes from the slightly odd parallel one poster has attempted to draw between Scientology and Catholicism, which I have been trying to disprove.

 

[NMH]

In case you haven't notices homophobia is not a preserve of any particular religion. There's no shortage of heathens who don't approve either.

Notwithstanding that homosexuality has no good place in human natural activity, as it is with paedophilia, beastiality, necrophilia, masturbation and oral sex.
It seems to me that being a nun, a monk, or celibate priest also defies nature. The pope himself has a lot to answer for, yet he's there calling the shots.
What a world we have made for ourselves (as a species), eh?

 

[Scampi]

That's not a condemning statement, but an indictment that many would go along with. I'd say he put that rather succinctly.

And there we go, someone who can't recognise that labelling someone as morally degenerate for their sexuality is by definition homophobic.

 

[NMH]

And there we go, someone who can't recognise that labelling someone as morally degenerate for their sexuality is by definition homophobic.

Huh?
You are thinking that homophobia is wrong.
If the pope is homophobic by your definition, I recognize that he should not be ashamed to wear that lable. I didn't say he wasn't homophobic at all!

 

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

Have just been listening to an item on the radio that kind of links to this. It was about Burqas increasingly being used as disguises for shoplifters etc. They were discussing the fact that we are expected to accept the wearing of burqas in western society and not request removal however when western women visit the middle east they are expected to conform and also wear a burqa facing verbal and in some cases physical abuse if they don't.

Although I don't agree I understand the religious/cultural implications when visiting their country but I also beleive that they should have to conform to our cultural expectations when in our country and if they are asked to remove their burqa they either agree or go elsewhere. Instead we are faced with accusations of racism and religious intolerence. How is that right?

 

[NMH]

Have just been listening to an item on the radio that kind of links to this. It was about Burqas increasingly being used as disguises for shoplifters etc. They were discussing the fact that we are expected to accept the wearing of burqas in western society and not request removal however when western women visit the middle east they are expected to conform and also wear a burqa facing verbal and in some cases physical abuse if they don't.

Although I don't agree I understand the religious/cultural implications when visiting their country but I also beleive that they should have to conform to our cultural expectations when in our country and if they are asked to remove their burqa they either agree or go elsewhere. Instead we are faced with accusations of racism and religious intolerence. How is that right?

One could argue that a robbing hoodie wearer emulates a monk.
To impose anything against a burqa wearer would be discriminatory - you can wear what you like when you like in this country.

 

[sten_super]

One could argue that a robbing hoodie wearer emulates a monk.
To impose anything against a burqa wearer would be discriminatory - you can wear what you like when you like in this country.

That's not true though is it. You can't wear a motorcycle helmet in a shop. What's the difference?

I accept though, that if you're going to ban one kind of headwear, you ban all.

 

[NMH]

That's not true though is it. You can't wear a motorcycle helmet in a shop. What's the difference?

I accept though, that if you're going to ban one kind of headwear, you ban all.

If you go onto any private premises, even when they are open for business, they can choose to serve you or not with or without a helmet - or a burqa for that matter. So where's the 'mistruth' exactly?? If it's a law I have yet to hear about that one

 

[sten_super]

If you go onto any private premises, even when they are open for business, they can choose to serve you or not with or without a helmet - or a burqa for that matter. So where's the 'mistruth' exactly?? If it's a law I have yet to hear about that one

That's splitting hairs. I don't think anyone is talking about banning burqas full stop, merely stopping them being worn in shops. It would presumably take exactly the same form as the ban on motorcycle helmets. Whether it's enforced by the state or by shopkeepers is ultimately irrelevant; there is a de facto ban on wearing motorcycle helmets.

 

[beorhthelm]

And there we go, someone who can't recognise that labelling someone as morally degenerate for their sexuality is by definition homophobic.

and where exactly was that said? because unless it was in some other post pages back, it certainly wasnt in the quoted. "has no good place in human natural activity" is not all the same as "morally degenerate". who's morals is it anyway?

 

[Acker79]

I know that in 1986 the current Pope wrote in the Letter to the Bishops of the Catholic Church on the Pastoral Care of Homosexual Persons
that homosexuals have a tendency to "intrinsic moral evil" and that homosexuality is a "moral disorder"

That's not a condemning statement, but an indictment that many would go along with. I'd say he put that rather succinctly.

And there we go, someone who can't recognise that labelling someone as morally degenerate for their sexuality is by definition homophobic.

and where exactly was that said? because unless it was in some other post pages back, it certainly wasnt in the quoted. "has no good place in human natural activity" is not all the same as "morally degenerate". who's morals is it anyway?

"intrinsic moral evil" and "moral disorder" = morally degenerate.