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Marshy

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Jul 6, 2003
19,955
FRUIT OF THE BLOOM
total non story, its clear your gp should have been your first port of call in this instance

this is the reason why A&E waits are so long sadly.
 




Creaky

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Mar 26, 2013
3,862
Hookwood - Nr Horley
I've never been referred to A&E by the doctor.

Referred to a consultant yes or to a specialist department - find it difficult to envisage a situation where they would say you need to go to A&E.
 




Spun Cuppa

Thanks Greens :(
I wonder how many people have died because they didn't want to 'trouble' A&E? It's an inexact science, so erroneous decisions will be made by all parties. I'm glad it's not a business, where profit is the motive...
 


fork me

I have changed this
Oct 22, 2003
2,147
Gate 3, Limassol, Cyprus
Was that really called for? If his story is indeed true that he got turned away then that is truly shocking. I do wonder about our society sometimes.

Is it shocking though? One of the reasons A&E departments are so overworked that they can't cope with genuine emergencies is people turning up with things they should see their GP about. Sorry, but a leg abscess is neither an accident or an emergency.
 




Socialist Sid

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Oct 20, 2012
702
The Kremlin
I wonder how many people have died because they didn't want to 'trouble' A&E? It's an inexact science, so erroneous decisions will be made by all parties. I'm glad it's not a business, where profit is the motive...

The OP went to A & E.

He was seen by a nurse who made, on the face of it, the correct decision to refer the problem to the GP.

The patient didn't die.
 




Hamilton

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Jul 7, 2003
12,953
Brighton
Wouldn't have anything to do with the millions of immigrants would it? You know the ones who owe the country £200 million then disappear without paying while Gully pays his taxes and gets turned away.

Bloody stupid tax payers.

Treatment of non- Europeans on the NHS costs £30m a year it was reported today. Treat them and we ensure there aren't people wandering around society with infectious diseases. Isn't that a good idea?
 












Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
56,118
Faversham
Glad to see most of the comments on this thread are sensible . . . . neither accident nor emergency.

All the other stuff about 'rights' etc is nonsense. As is the stuff about drunks getting A+E treatment.

I work right above A and E at one of London's biggest hospitals. Had occasion to pay them a visit a while back with a broken wrist (cycling accident in central London). There were plenty of 'characters' in there - a drunken Russian (at ten in the morning) etc. The staff dealt with them patiently. The emergencies were dealt with.

That's not to say that the NHS isn't both run by money savers, ditherers, fob-offers etc, but by and large the actual staff are excellent. In London. Elsewhere its a bit hit and miss. Brighton is a basket case (another story). The fiasco in Birmingham (more than 200 people 'needlessly' dead) being a particularly florid example of 'management' wrecking the system.

The big danger is that the Tories are happy to see the NHS discredited, because it is a socialist concept. So, complain about bad stuff. But do try to not pollute the argument by arguing that taxpayers have a right to demand anything. That is unreasonable. I could cite numerous examples of patient abuse, and crap from the providers of health care, but I'm bored now.

I hope the leg gets better, btw. It looks nasty. Your GP should be able to sort it . . . .
 


Hamilton

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Jul 7, 2003
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Brighton
Did he seek an Ambulance? No, He walked in and as he pays his taxes then he's bloody well entitled to treatment.

We are all responsible for thinking about how we use services. Whether you are left leaning or right leaning we have an individual responsibility to use the services we all pay for in the proper manner. I'm not suggesting the OP was deliberately doing something wrong, but I am saying we all now have a responsibility to think about how we use precious services.
 


Change at Barnham

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Aug 6, 2011
5,467
Bognor Regis
I'm told that if you had arrived in our local Minor Injuries Dept with your leg like that they would have referred you to our local A&E, not your GP.
 




Garage_Doors

Originally the Swankers
Jun 28, 2008
11,790
Brighton

So have I hurt my ankle bad that i could not stand on it, (kicking over a large single cylinder motorcycle) and went to the GP who advised it would need x raying so sent me up to the A&E, But would never go to A&E without going to a GP first unless i thought it was life or death.
 


drew

Drew
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Oct 3, 2006
23,614
Burgess Hill
Ha Ha ha.

'I'm going to the Argus about this, blah blah blah'. I assume you read the Argus because if you did, you would have noticed stories earlier in the year about how the A & E depts are coping and had complained to the RCN. BSUH Trust are taking action to deal with it. If the Dr said come back to us in a couple of days or go to the A & E, why not go back to the Drs. I know with my surgery that if I have an emergency, ie pain, then they will see me the same day.

Out of interest, what do you hope to gain by complaining. Was the nurse rude to you when he advised you to go to the GPs? Also, how do you know you would have been treated quicker at the A & E. People have long waits there as well!

As for the nationality of the nurse, did it say on his name tag that he was chinese or did you take the view that he must have been just because of his slanty eyes!!!!!!!
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
I've never been referred to A&E by the doctor.

Referred to a consultant yes or to a specialist department - find it difficult to envisage a situation where they would say you need to go to A&E.

I have. I had an abcess which the GP treated with antibiotics, but they didn't work. I went back to the GP after 4 days, following his advice to go back to him, and he then referred me to A&E.
I was admitted to the day ward at 10am, given a general anaesthetic at 4 pm and stayed overnight, discharged the following morning.
 




Good grief. There's some unbelievable hostility to skilled professional staff being expressed here. All on the basis that people pay taxes and are bloody well entitled to whatever it is that they want.

Fortunately, the NHS is better run than that.
 


Lady Whistledown

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Jul 7, 2003
47,630
Whether he should have gone to his GP in the first place or not, I am at least completely satisfied that this is not remotely worth going to the Argus about.
 


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