Sheebo
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[Football] Ref Drysdale?
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Tokyohands
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I was imagining him red carding himself as well
. I'm pretty sure officials can be removed the game, there must be a rule in place in case they absolutely lose their shit.
Cowfold Seagull
Fan of the 17 bus
What you say is very true of course, but referees these days are very well paid for what they do, what, maybe one or two matches a week at the very most? and showing restraint from the provocation that they receive, has to be an absolute must.
Darren Drysdale too has been on the Football League list for years, is very experienced, and frankly should have known better.
Kuipers Supporters Club
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Collina was infamous for doing this. Players need to respect the referee.
Agree on microphones and cameras for referee.
Agree on microphones and cameras for referee.
About £40k PA plus £600 for a Championship match, well paid but you aren't going to get rich on it. Considering the pressure they are under, it's amazing that more referees don't lose it.
blue-shifted
Banned
Well done Darren Drysdale.
It's about time this issue was highlighted. Totally wrong that players can be as aggressive as they like with no repercussions and support from the manager.
Refs are humans too and it won't only a matter of time before one snapped.
Hope the FA give him a couple of weekends off and that's it
Lambert came across as a t***
It's about time this issue was highlighted. Totally wrong that players can be as aggressive as they like with no repercussions and support from the manager.
Refs are humans too and it won't only a matter of time before one snapped.
Hope the FA give him a couple of weekends off and that's it
Lambert came across as a t***
Greg Bobkin
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I get the FA has to charge him – he broke the rules – but nothing will ever change until the source of the problem is dealt with.
Refs are on the end of all sorts of abuse from both sets of players, both sets of fans and – sometimes – both managers. Not much you can do about the fans, but until the players are held to account and respect the referees decisions – and I mean going way beyond the 'respect' nonsense that currently exists – these sort of incidents will become more common.
I'd go down the line of sin bins. Any abuse to the ref and you take five minutes out of the game. That's one way to stamp it out. Same with diving. Go down too easily? Off you go
It won't happen, of course, players have WAY too much power and protection
Refs are on the end of all sorts of abuse from both sets of players, both sets of fans and – sometimes – both managers. Not much you can do about the fans, but until the players are held to account and respect the referees decisions – and I mean going way beyond the 'respect' nonsense that currently exists – these sort of incidents will become more common.
I'd go down the line of sin bins. Any abuse to the ref and you take five minutes out of the game. That's one way to stamp it out. Same with diving. Go down too easily? Off you go
It won't happen, of course, players have WAY too much power and protection
Braggfan
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Years ago, playing Sunday football, there was a particulalry hard ref who rumour has it was an amateur boxer. He certainly had the build for it. I remember one game where our opposition were particularly gobby and when the ref gave a free kick against them, their mouthy centre midfielder called the ref a c**t. The ref went over to him and said "if you call me that again I'm not going to send you off, I'm going to f*****g knock you out". The rest of the game can only be described as peaceful. Nobody said a cross word to anyone for the rest of the game. Although I'm not condoning violence, their player was courting it, and the ref's response was very effective.
blue-shifted
Banned
The thing is refs can clearly sanction a player for abuse.
The just card them. Anything moderate a yellow, foul language should be a straight red.
The sort of crowding around the ref that Man U used to do should result in 5 or 6 yellows.
Why don't they do it? Because they know the authorities won't have their back.
It's another problem which could be stamped out overnight, with the will to do so.
The just card them. Anything moderate a yellow, foul language should be a straight red.
The sort of crowding around the ref that Man U used to do should result in 5 or 6 yellows.
Why don't they do it? Because they know the authorities won't have their back.
It's another problem which could be stamped out overnight, with the will to do so.
Sheebo
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He’s lucky - most grassroots games would have been a red for swearing at the ref like that. It’s one of the main differences between grassroots and pro game - pros seem to get away with talking to all the refs like shit and the refs all just take it - so odd. More player power - bowing down to the well paid footballers all round...
As an aside, I remember when we’d have bitten hands off for Alan Judge - think we were linked at one point -Brentford wasn’t he and had one or two fantastic seasons...
This. Players are the c***s here. Refs are doing a thankless task. PLayers cheat, most of them most of the time, that's how high the stakes are now. the sooner they get put in their place and concentrate on playing football the better. If that means Mr Tumble and Sock boy are largely spectators then so be it.
The ref should be having dinner with Collina, THE master Ref, this weekend, at Petrus, on the FA.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...ck-darren-drysdale-confronted-ipswich-player/
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Very well paid? Are you having a laugh? the best refs earn per year what a player earns in a week.
I am very good friends with a retired ref, county league. he rarely took any shit, and similarly as has been already mentioned here had no problem with telling captains to cork it or they'd be playing 6 a side. His games were always good to watch, fair, and football rather than bun fights.
Si Gull
Way Down South
Nothing to see here. It's not like he headbutted the player to the ground. Yes, ref shouldn't have done it but slap his wrist and move on. Interesting that the players didn't seem at all bothered by it.
I'm sure he also feels that he should have known better. But who knows what else he's contending with at the moment? Everyone has their breaking point and frankly the continual cheating, complaining, contesting of every decision and abuse that refs are expected to put up with from players and managers on both sides for two hours is unacceptable.
Hopefully this will be seen as a bit of a watershed moment but I'm not holding my breath. Refs shouldn't have to put up with half of what they do and I don't blame him for momentarily losing his cool. I guess he will be hung out to dry but the governing bodies should be looking at the symptoms of this incident and doing FAR more to support match officials by enforcing higher standards of discipline and respect from both players and those in the technical area.
Watching how some teams continually hound and surround the ref and contest every decision that goes against them as some sort of pre-planned tactic to gain an edge is deplorable.
Team Drysdale here.
blue-shifted
Banned
Well paid compared to ... well .....us
but us peasants don't figure on the financial scale of football.
I agree though a PL ref probably earns double what most of us do, and thats a second job for most of them!
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Depending on experience, referee’s in the EPL earn a basic annual salary of £70,000 to £100,000 plus match fees of £1,150 per game. Refs can make extra money for officiating games in the Champions League, World Cup and European Championship. FIFA recently announced their list of referees for the 2018 World Cup and there will be no British man officiating at the tournament since 1938.
https://www.eplfocus.com/premier-league-referee-wages/
GloryDays
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You can't do that....especially to A. Judge....
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But I'm fine with it. Give that man a raise.
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But I'm fine with it. Give that man a raise.
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I was chatting about this clip with some mates the other day. Collina stood for zero nonsense which is why he is considered to be one of the greatest referees of all time. Drysdale shouldn’t put his head in but it’s very refreshing to see a no nonsense referee rather than some of the absolute fannies you see getting bullied by players.
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The Wizard
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Lower league referees get paid nowhere near 70-100k per year, not even close to that.
I don’t know about now but I know 7 years ago when I was doing a course that entailed a refereeing course with the FA as part of completion - that lower league referees (L1 and L2) earn between £3/400 normally, I’m not sure if it’s still the same now but outside of the championship and EPL the money is still good but nowhere near that of the basic salary in the top two divisions (40-70k + bonuses)
It’s all relative of course but refereeing is a f**king hard job, luckily I was in a position where i was refereeing amateur football, and there is zero tolerance towards referee abuse in amateur football now. Which does beg the question, why are players allowed to act how they do in the professional game?
I don’t know about now but I know 7 years ago when I was doing a course that entailed a refereeing course with the FA as part of completion - that lower league referees (L1 and L2) earn between £3/400 normally, I’m not sure if it’s still the same now but outside of the championship and EPL the money is still good but nowhere near that of the basic salary in the top two divisions (40-70k + bonuses)
It’s all relative of course but refereeing is a f**king hard job, luckily I was in a position where i was refereeing amateur football, and there is zero tolerance towards referee abuse in amateur football now. Which does beg the question, why are players allowed to act how they do in the professional game?