[Football] Raphael Dwamena RIP

[Eeyore]

I think it is a Swiss thing, just look how many years Sepp Blatter got away with repeating to the entire world that there was no corruption within FIFA.

Grow up.

 

[The Fifth Column]

Grow up.

Thanks for your input.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Ever heard of medical confidentiality obligation? It's quite a universal thing.

Tests were repeated, same results, same conclusion. He is back in training.

We do not know what was communicated between the clubs, I don't know if it is standard practice to share medical information. Again, there is something called medical confidentiality. However, FCZ has released a statement that deviations from the norm are nothing uncommon in such tests. The finding was analyzed and its consequences on health and performance were assessed. The medical team concluded that this deviation is not dangerous to health and that it does not affect the performance of a top athlete. Again, these test were done this January prior to his transfer to FCZ and they were repeated again at the end of August. Note, FCZ does not talk about the nature of the condition.

The player (as effective owner of his own medical information) can consent to information being used for alternative means other than its original intention.

Obviously no-one knows whether that has happened other than FCZ and Brighton.

As far as the being back in training, if I was still playing and had any inkling of a heart defect (minor or otherwise), I would want it resolved.

The fact that FCZ medical team deem it "not dangerous to health", is based on what? A level of risk because he is a professional athlete? What happens later in life?

What if (heaven forbid), he collapses on the pitch? It's not as though there haven't been other instances.

Brighton IMO, acted extremely diligently in picking this up and were right to put a stop to it.

It just feels like FCZ do not have the players best interests at heart, and for me health and safety on the pitch/workplace should trump everything else.


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[Blue Valkyrie]

Strewth.

It seems the only way the club can 'clear its name' is to release details of the severity of the medical condition.

 

[Insel affe]

It just feels like FCZ do not have the players best interests at heart, and for me health and safety on the pitch/workplace should trump everything else.


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With x millions in a transfer fee at stake of course they don't.....

 

[Stat Brother]

The player (as effective owner of his own medical information) can consent to information being used for alternative means other than its original intention.

Obviously no-one knows whether that has happened other than FCZ and Brighton.

As far as the being back in training, if I was still playing and had any inkling of a heart defect (minor or otherwise), I would want it resolved.

The fact that FCZ medical team deem it "not dangerous to health", is based on what? A level of risk because he is a professional athlete? What happens later in life?

What if (heaven forbid), he collapses on the pitch? It's not as though there haven't been other instances.

Brighton IMO, acted extremely diligently in picking this up and were right to put a stop to it.

It just feels like FCZ do not have the players best interests at heart, and for me health and safety on the pitch/workplace should trump everything else.


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I wonder how Zurich would view the results if they were paying £10m?

Brighton IMO, acted extremely diligently in picking this up and were right to put a stop to it.

3 tests in 8 months all showing the same result doesn't really show extreme diligence.


What next?

Raphael shows more promise and is a £15-20m transfer target in January.
Now he's on the map, someone will have a decision to make.

Or, he falters through to January, does a team swoop in a pick him up for £5m?

If there is a corrective surgery I'm surprised his agents haven't insisted on it being done, writing off the bulk of season so he's back in good time for next season.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

I wonder how Zurich would view the results if they were paying £10m?

Brighton IMO, acted extremely diligently in picking this up and were right to put a stop to it.

3 tests in 8 months all showing the same result doesn't really show extreme diligence.


What next?

Raphael shows more promise and is a £15-20m transfer target in January.
Now he's on the map, someone will have a decision to make.

Or, he falters through to January, does a team swoop in a pick him up for £5m?

If there is a corrective surgery I'm surprised his agents haven't insisted on it being done, writing off the bulk of season so he's back in good time for next season.

Only Brighton did act diligently by picking it up, there is no evidence to suggest FCZ shared the medical results.

Re the corrective surgery, I'm surprised that the club or player haven't as well.

Seems complete madness to me.


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[Stat Brother]

FC Zurich lethal striker Raphael Dwamena gets doctor's approval to resume training and play again

http://ghanasoccernet.com/fc-zurich...rs-approval-to-resume-training-and-play-again



Perhaps if the Albion had spent 3 weeks doing more medical tests instead of bibbling about £2m they might have come to the same conclusion.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

FC Zurich lethal striker Raphael Dwamena gets doctor's approval to resume training and play again

http://ghanasoccernet.com/fc-zurich...rs-approval-to-resume-training-and-play-again



Perhaps if the Albion had spent 3 weeks doing more medical tests instead of bibbling about £2m they might have come to the same conclusion.

Thanks for posting link.

The fact he is having a form of ongoing monitoring for a couple of weeks, whilst training, suggests there is still some concern, unless I have misread......

Hope he is okay.


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[Johnny RoastBeef]

Thanks for posting link.

The fact he is having a form of ongoing monitoring for a couple of weeks, whilst training, suggests there is still some concern, unless I have misread......

Hope he is okay.


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"The heart reading chip has implanted around my chest. I will play with it for some weeks and they will take it out."

Sounds like the test are ongoing, some pretty invasive tests too going by that quote. The poor lad is still not in the clear.

 

[Stat Brother]

"The heart reading chip has implanted around my chest. I will play with it for some weeks and they will take it out."

Sounds like the test are ongoing, some pretty invasive tests too going by that quote. The poor lad is still not in the clear.

My guess on the chip is it's the club, player and agents, are doing everything they can do to prove he's fit to play while keeping him on the pitch.

 

[Johnny RoastBeef]

My guess on the chip is it's the club, player and agents, are doing everything they can do to prove he's fit to play while keeping him on the pitch.

I think he will never be worth big money again, even if they eventually give him the all clear. Sorry to sound crass, but we had no choice but to pull out. You wouldn't spend £10,000,000 on a race horse with a similar history.

 

[Hugo Rune]

For £10m worth of player, his agents and club will do everything possible to find a solution to him resuming hie career. There are probably a few Championship sides (and others around Europe) who would take a gamble on him if he is given the all clear.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

For £10m worth of player, his agents and club will do everything possible to find a solution to him resuming hie career. There are probably a few Championship sides (and others around Europe) who would take a gamble on him if he is given the all clear.

I he is truly given the all clear than he's fit for any side. If not....he has by definition more than an ordinary chance of dropping dead on the pitch and will therefore have to retire. There is no middle ground here.

 

[Jim D]

I he is truly given the all clear than he's fit for any side. If not....he has by definition more than an ordinary chance of dropping dead on the pitch and will therefore have to retire. There is no middle ground here.

It's this 'truly' bit I'm not sure about. I guess they could find a doctor, even a heart specialist, that would say he was good to return. But if someone else found a different specialist who said he wasn't who would you believe? Clearly the agent would go with the first, but what would a club with a duty of care do?

 

[Icy Gull]

It's this 'truly' bit I'm not sure about. I guess they could find a doctor, even a heart specialist, that would say he was good to return. But if someone else found a different specialist who said he wasn't who would you believe? Clearly the agent would go with the first, but what would a club with a duty of care do?

Not the same I know but Asa Hartford was turned down by Leeds because he had a hole in the heart. He went on to have an excellent career with Manchester City. Just because our medical team didn't want to take the risk it doesn't mean he won't go on to have a great career somewhere else.

 

[Baldseagull]

FC Zurich lethal striker Raphael Dwamena gets doctor's approval to resume training and play again

http://ghanasoccernet.com/fc-zurich...rs-approval-to-resume-training-and-play-again



Perhaps if the Albion had spent 3 weeks doing more medical tests instead of bibbling about £2m they might have come to the same conclusion.

Not sure that a doctor saying it's down to God if he dies or not, is quite the same as there being nothing to worry about.

 

[clippedgull]

It's this 'truly' bit I'm not sure about. I guess they could find a doctor, even a heart specialist, that would say he was good to return. But if someone else found a different specialist who said he wasn't who would you believe? Clearly the agent would go with the first, but what would a club with a duty of care do?

I would guess that an insurance company would have the final say in any medical uncertainty dispute!

 

[Doc Lynam]

Not sure that a doctor saying it's down to God if he dies or not, is quite the same as there being nothing to worry about.

He's a massive god botherer, i'm sure he believes its all part of a bigger plan! Yeah play football, in the end its down to god if you die!

 

[Stat Brother]

He's a massive god botherer, i'm sure he believes its all part of a bigger plan! Yeah play football, in the end its down to god if you die!

Do you have similar issues with Tomer and Beram's faith?