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Are you actually serious ?
Racist idiot, abuses Muamba on Twitter. Ruins own life.
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This is a fair point. Certain times need certain measures.
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The comment he made about Muamba was offensive and broadcast widely, because thousands and thousands of people were actively searching for the word "Muamba" at the time.
He followed it up by scattergunning race hate and vile comments at various people.
Due to the nature of the medium, the attacks were very public, not isolated on a messageboard. Hence the widespread outrage and, I guess, the sentencing.
He followed it up by scattergunning race hate and vile comments at various people.
Due to the nature of the medium, the attacks were very public, not isolated on a messageboard. Hence the widespread outrage and, I guess, the sentencing.
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I'm quite sure the law allows for a prison sentence in the offences I mentioned, in fact I know it does, so why then are these sentences not being applied ? I direct you to the line in my previous post "its an attempt to appease a vociferous minority, whilst we sweep various other ills and wrongdoings under the carpet."
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I do not see why the sentancing for this kid should be just a slap on the wrist just because what he was actually given is more than the ave burgular...
I'm happy to see strict sentencing on everything. Just because a crime you judge to be more serious gets a lesser sentance does not mean i want to see the lesser crimes get less than the so called 'serious crimes'...
Hard to explain...
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It's nothing of the sort, that , is just a lazy attempt to skirt the issue at hand, to be honest I think most people will see that.
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My question as to your seriousness was aimed at the line " Maybe seeing the sentencing for these racist twitter comments will push up the sentencing for other crimes like child porn, burglary up.. "
I agree with you here. Whilst I think the sentence was harsh (the lad has had his life pretty well ruined without the need for a judge to add to the binfest), it WILL make people think long and hard before posting similar things on social media sites...............unless the poster is a redneck republican from the good old US of A.
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Indeed, if what he was alleged to have said can be proven (still don't think you can go by 'mouth reading' and he said she said evidence aloan) then the sentencing could be interesting one given the Suarez case and now this.
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That makes a certain amount of sense. The fact that people were searching for comments on Muamba, does mean he broadcast to a wider audience, but I guess that also means he would have been facing a lesser sentence if he'd mis-spelt his name, or in fact used a derogatory term instead of his name.
SK1NT
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No i dont think it will... but it can't do any harm seeing lesser crimes getting stronger sentences... I'd rather that than weaker...
However i feel he was just made an example of...
Common as Mook
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I really don't think that's true and I'm not arguing with you for the sake of it either.
It's an attempt to nip something in the bud before it gets worse. Nothing more, nothing less. I totally agree about the leniency of some sentences, but as far I can see, it has absolutely nothing to do with this.
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There is a big difference between proving what someone said and proving what someone tweeted.
This is the crux of the matter for me - you post something on the internet, it is there potentially for everyone to read, forever.
Peter Schmeichal must have a twitchy sphincter too, although Ian Wright didn't report him at the time because 'No one likes a snitch'.
Here we see the best and worst example of human beings reaction to events.
With Fabrice you see the good in humanity: 'praying', wishing him a speedy recovery, acts of kindness etc.
And then to Liam Stacey they are wishing his downfall, wanting him kicked out of uni, his rugby club, hoping he is punished severely, wanting his life ruined basically.
How hypocritical.
With Fabrice you see the good in humanity: 'praying', wishing him a speedy recovery, acts of kindness etc.
And then to Liam Stacey they are wishing his downfall, wanting him kicked out of uni, his rugby club, hoping he is punished severely, wanting his life ruined basically.
How hypocritical.
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How is that in any way hypocritical - the two things are completely different . One had a life-threatening event, in which he was completely innocent, the other acted like a prat (at least) whatever his sentence. I don't see how you can compare the two (I don't think anyone has called for his life to be ruined anyway, it was stated orignally that he has ruined it himself)
Sure he acted like a prat to what was a life/death situation for Muamba. Very stupid. But Jail?!? People starting petitions to have him kicked out of Uni?!? I imagine we've all acted like prats and said stupid things when we were drunk at some point in our lives. I'm sure even Muamba would be more lenient with this guy than the general public/authorities are being. I'd much rather see someone like that have a rollocking and/or do some form of reparation to Muamba.
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Well, I doubt this will ever happen again, but I agree with bushy on this one re the proportionate response aspect (if not the burning poppy rant).
This WILL make people think how they behave on Twitter etc for in some cases the first time, and that is a good thing because social media is in danger of spiralling out of control.
But crime for crime, 56 days for what he did is a very heavy sentence, and crimes by professional criminals and dangerous lunatics against property and physically against the individual are often getting nothing like that in the way of sentencing. Give me the choice of someone abusing me on the internet or waving a knife in my face, and I know which one I'd choose.
To me this bloke has made an utter public cock of himself, and the shame and getting thrown out of university would be more than enough.
This WILL make people think how they behave on Twitter etc for in some cases the first time, and that is a good thing because social media is in danger of spiralling out of control.
But crime for crime, 56 days for what he did is a very heavy sentence, and crimes by professional criminals and dangerous lunatics against property and physically against the individual are often getting nothing like that in the way of sentencing. Give me the choice of someone abusing me on the internet or waving a knife in my face, and I know which one I'd choose.
To me this bloke has made an utter public cock of himself, and the shame and getting thrown out of university would be more than enough.
With respect, I am sure I have been called something similar on here.
I appreciate your concern, but I never felt I needed you or anyone to take action, thank you.
It is harsh, but I have little sympathy really. It's about time people realised that you're subject to the same laws offline and as you are online. Everyone knows you can't go down the high street and stand on a sopabox espousing the type of offensive and racist views this numpty has, so why think it acceptable to PUBLISH it online to a wider audience.
I hope it sends out a message.
I hope it sends out a message.