Yes, yes thats it, it is deliberate and that is what makes it a act of freedom and yes yes it offended.
Thats the point.
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Racist (?) ex-soldier jailed. your take on it.
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Yes, yes thats it, it is deliberate and that is what makes it a act of freedom and yes yes it offended.
Thats the point.
I have literally no idea what your point is.
Are you trying to say we have freedom to do anything as long as it is deliberate? You've already admitted that freedom of speech doesn't apply... so what does?
Agreed - reading the rest in utter dismay.
You know exactly what I am implying, being offensive is a right, it has to be because too many people like you wish to impose the thresholds.
You offend regularly as I do to, to different degrees, it needn't be an offence even if it upsets us greatly.
bn1&bn3 Albion
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He deserved what he got, the people who burnt the poppy's should have got the same sentence.
TSB
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He wrote 'Ragheads out' on the side of the Mosque. That's why he's been jailed. The muslims didn't. They were insensitive but he was racist.
stripeyshark
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But how is that any worse? That's the real issue here.
stripeyshark
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Falkor
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Maybe because burning poppys is not a racial attack, considering the British army come from all different races and cultural back grounds.
Its inciting hatred but cant see how it is racial
brakespear
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I once got shouted at by a football supporter from Croydon. So every time I see a football stadium I write a rude word on the wall.
Lord Bracknell
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He can. He pleaded guilty.
turienzo's lovechild
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why is there a question mark after the word "racist" in the title?
he wrote "ragheads out" on the side of a mosque.........my money is on "racist"
he wrote "ragheads out" on the side of a mosque.........my money is on "racist"
Willy Dangle
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Be quiet
The Spanish
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there are european, asian, african, arab, all sorts of races who are muslim. it may be a 'hate crime' (what an orwellian term) but it isnt racial unless you consider muslims a race of people in which case your starting from the wrong spot.
daveinprague
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No...our military is not all one colour, with many religions represented within it, including muslims.
Also, the poppy is the symbol of a charity. Not a religion.
Falkor
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The Poppy Burner didnt plead guilty to a racial crime, he pleaded not guilty to section 5 of the public order act.
What the guy did at a mosque was completely racial.
FREDBINNEY
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Do you think what the guy did at the mosque was worse , or likely to cause more hurt and upset than burning the poppies ? That is the question , if so, why ?
FREDBINNEY
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Muslims are also not one colour or race , with many represented, including soldiers, I will also ask you, do you think what the guy at the mosque did was worse and likly to cause more hurt and upset than the poppy burners, bearing in mind poppies and what they represent mean a lot to the majority of this country.
FREDBINNEY
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So in your book, writing " ragheads out" is a worse crime than burning a symbol of our war dead , and more deserving of a jail sentence ?