Question Time

[Herr Tubthumper]

Well said that chap about the "hopeless generation."

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Someone shut that daft bint from The Telegraph up.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Someone shut that daft bint from The Telegraph up.

She sounded like a female Lloyd Grossman.
We need to hear from Benjamin Zephania more.

 

[User removed 4]

She sounded like a female Lloyd Grossman.
We need to hear from Benjamin Zephania more.

Yeah , a convicted burglar who writes seriously shit poetry who's got such a chip on his shoulder about this country he turned down the OBE that a patronising white establishment offered him, seriously , why do we "need" to hear from him more ? , he is a second generation immigrant who hates the way this country is and is so proud of his caribbean roots , yet still lives here , the reason people like you "need to hear from him more" is to make yourself feel good about how cool and down with multiculturalism you are, I bet he cannot believe his f***ing luck how people like you fawn over him and how the absolute dogshit he passes off as poetry is taken seriously .

 

[Easy 10]

Apart from that though ?

 

[User removed 4]

Apart from that though ?

 

[Beach Hut]

Watched Welcome To India on the digibox - far better as it looked a very week line-up

 

[Easy 10]

Actually, you may have a point...I've just dredged this up via a Google:

Eat Your Words by Benjamin Zephaniah


I am a veggie table
A table made of veg,
There’s so much fruit upon me
All living on the edge,
Life is hard
But so are plates
And tea can be quite hot,
And vegetarian poets
Make me nervous quite a lot.


WTF ?

 

[Mo Gosfield]

That woman from the Telegraph drove me mad, interrupting all the time. I thought BZ was very tolerant with her. I think I would have been tempted to tell her to " shut the f... up " I am always suspicious of people that adopt a ' mid-Atlantic ' accent. Disc Jockeys used to do it in the 60's and 70's, for effect and now you find certain people around the professional tennis circuit do it as well.( Enough of that stupid woman! )
Onto ' hopelessness '. I honestly believe that the current generation of youngsters have been let down badly by misguided government and poor parenting. They have been lead to believe that a fist full of high passes at GCSE and a place at University is a passport to a £30k job at the age of 24. They have been lead to believe that anyone can get on a stage and instantly become a star.
They have not been taught properly that very few people on the planet get rich quick or achieve instant stardom. They are growing up unaware that the whole of their working life is an apprenticeship. Our television screens are full of 18 year olds sobbing uncontrollably and saying that all they want in life is to be a singer. The system is producing kids who cannot even write a letter.
The are brought up in an environment of " look after yourself first " and sod the rest. They are being taught how to take advantage of a system that is meant to be there only for the seriously disadvantaged.
They have seen public servants elected by their parents exposed as cheats and famous and trusted institutions who have shown that there are no depths to which they will plunge in their pursuit of greed.
And now they are becoming the victims of a government hell-bent in making cuts in the 'easiest' areas first and desperate to safeguard their own bed-rock of voters.
We owe it to our children to try and give them the best start in life but at the moment too many are being let down.

 

[KZNSeagull]

Actually, you may have a point...I've just dredged this up via a Google:

Eat Your Words by Benjamin Zephaniah


I am a veggie table
A table made of veg,
There’s so much fruit upon me
All living on the edge,
Life is hard
But so are plates
And tea can be quite hot,
And vegetarian poets
Make me nervous quite a lot.


WTF ?

Must have been written by this bloke, surely:

 

[Simster]

Actually, you may have a point...I've just dredged this up via a Google:

Eat Your Words by Benjamin Zephaniah


I am a veggie table
A table made of veg,
There’s so much fruit upon me
All living on the edge,
Life is hard
But so are plates
And tea can be quite hot,
And vegetarian poets
Make me nervous quite a lot.


WTF ?

Christ that is shit. Which reminds me, is Atilla appearing on QT at any time soon?

 

[Easy 10]

I am the type you are supposed to fear
Black and foreign
Big and dreadlocks
An uneducated grass eater.

I talk in tongues
I chant at night
I appear anywhere,
I sleep with lions
And when the moon gets me
I am a Wailer.

I am moving in
Next door to you
So you can get to know me,
You will see my shadow
In the bathroom window,
My aromas will occupy
Your space,
Our ball will be in your court.
How will you feel?

You should feel good
You have been chosen.

I am the type you are supposed to love
Dark and mysterious
Tall and natural
Thinking, tea total.
I talk in schools
I sing on TV
I am in the papers,
I keep cool cats

And when the sun is shining
I go Carnival.

 

[The Large One]

That woman from the Telegraph drove me mad, interrupting all the time. I thought BZ was very tolerant with her. I think I would have been tempted to tell her to " shut the f... up " I am always suspicious of people that adopt a ' mid-Atlantic ' accent. Disc Jockeys used to do it in the 60's and 70's, for effect and now you find certain people around the professional tennis circuit do it as well.( Enough of that stupid woman! )
Onto ' hopelessness '. I honestly believe that the current generation of youngsters have been let down badly by misguided government and poor parenting. They have been lead to believe that a fist full of high passes at GCSE and a place at University is a passport to a £30k job at the age of 24. They have been lead to believe that anyone can get on a stage and instantly become a star.
They have not been taught properly that very few people on the planet get rich quick or achieve instant stardom. They are growing up unaware that the whole of their working life is an apprenticeship. Our television screens are full of 18 year olds sobbing uncontrollably and saying that all they want in life is to be a singer. The system is producing kids who cannot even write a letter.
The are brought up in an environment of " look after yourself first " and sod the rest. They are being taught how to take advantage of a system that is meant to be there only for the seriously disadvantaged.
They have seen public servants elected by their parents exposed as cheats and famous and trusted institutions who have shown that there are no depths to which they will plunge in their pursuit of greed.
And now they are becoming the victims of a government hell-bent in making cuts in the 'easiest' areas first and desperate to safeguard their own bed-rock of voters.
We owe it to our children to try and give them the best start in life but at the moment too many are being let down.

So... not so much a legacy, more a pre-emptive strike.

 

[Hamilton]

Yeah , a convicted burglar who writes seriously shit poetry who's got such a chip on his shoulder about this country he turned down the OBE that a patronising white establishment offered him, seriously , why do we "need" to hear from him more ? , he is a second generation immigrant who hates the way this country is and is so proud of his caribbean roots , yet still lives here , the reason people like you "need to hear from him more" is to make yourself feel good about how cool and down with multiculturalism you are, I bet he cannot believe his f***ing luck how people like you fawn over him and how the absolute dogshit he passes off as poetry is taken seriously .

You are talking rubbish.

Try reading this!

Benjamin Zephaniah: Youth Unemployment: I Wanted to Use Poetry to Speak for Myself

And since when has prison never changed a man?

I was lucky enough to hear Zephaniah speak at a conference in the north east 10 years ago. The conference was about the emergence of online technology and how the web would revolutionise the way in which we could purchase goods from suppliers; access knowledge and one another and how businesses could undertake transactions in a matter of seconds.

Zephaniah calmly got up and reminded us to use the technology to release people from poverty as much as thrust business ahead. The conference was on Wearside, a matter of minutes from Sunderland. Zephaniah had spent the previous day in Sunderland and he told us that he could, take us a mile down the road and show us families that could not even afford a joint of meat for Sunday and here we were talking about the advancement of things like online banking.

The point of business development was not lost on him, but he reminded us of how we should reappraise technology to use it for the human good.

Bushy, you appear to be using the man to spout your agenda rather than from any real knowledge of him.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Yeah , a convicted burglar who writes seriously shit poetry who's got such a chip on his shoulder about this country he turned down the OBE that a patronising white establishment offered him, seriously , why do we "need" to hear from him more ? , he is a second generation immigrant who hates the way this country is and is so proud of his caribbean roots , yet still lives here , the reason people like you "need to hear from him more" is to make yourself feel good about how cool and down with multiculturalism you are, I bet he cannot believe his f***ing luck how people like you fawn over him and how the absolute dogshit he passes off as poetry is taken seriously .

I'm not a big fan of his poetry, it's ok though, I think 'seriously shit' may be overdoing the criticism somewhat.

I didn't know that he was a convicted burglar. Disappointing - but I'd imagine that he's not the same person now, and would be ashamed about this.

If he's a 'second generation immigrant', he's not an immigrant. He was born here. He's British.

Now... I don't want to hear from him more because it makes me somehow 'cool'. He spoke a lot of sense on Question Time last night as far as I'm concerned. I won't 'fawn' over him, and your suggestion that I need to feel good about being 'down with multiculturalism' is frankly, bollocks. Is this always gonna be the case, agree with a black man and somehow you're trying to be cool?

 

[User removed 4]

You are talking rubbish.

Try reading this!

Benjamin Zephaniah: Youth Unemployment: I Wanted to Use Poetry to Speak for Myself

And since when has prison never changed a man?

I was lucky enough to hear Zephaniah speak at a conference in the north east 10 years ago. The conference was about the emergence of online technology and how the web would revolutionise the way in which we could purchase goods from suppliers; access knowledge and one another and how businesses could undertake transactions in a matter of seconds.

Zephaniah calmly got up and reminded us to use the technology to release people from poverty as much as thrust business ahead. The conference was on Wearside, a matter of minutes from Sunderland. Zephaniah had spent the previous day in Sunderland and he told us that he could, take us a mile down the road and show us families that could not even afford a joint of meat for Sunday and here we were talking about the advancement of things like online banking.

The point of business development was not lost on him, but he reminded us of how we should reappraise technology to use it for the human good.

Bushy, you appear to be using the man to spout your agenda rather than from any real knowledge of him.

And you appear to be just the sort of gullible fool that provide this clown with an audience, people in the slums of bombay live in poverty, people in sunderland might be poor , but poverty ? do me a favour , since when has not being able to afford a joint of f***ing meat been poverty ?

 

[Easy 10]

"I couldn't go to the Jobcentre and say I want to be a poet. You still can't do that and it amazes me."
Benjamin Zephaniah

If he took any of his efforts along with him, then frankly I'm not OVERLY surprised.

 

[User removed 4]

I'm not a big fan of his poetry, it's ok though, I think 'seriously shit' may be overdoing the criticism somewhat.

I didn't know that he was a convicted burglar. Disappointing - but I'd imagine that he's not the same person now, and would be ashamed about this.

If he's a 'second generation immigrant', he's not an immigrant. He was born here. He's British.

Now... I don't want to hear from him more because it makes me somehow 'cool'. He spoke a lot of sense on Question Time last night as far as I'm concerned. I won't 'fawn' over him, and your suggestion that I need to feel good about being 'down with multiculturalism' is frankly, bollocks. Is this always gonna be the case, agree with a black man and somehow you're trying to be cool?

No, just clowns like benjamin zephaniah, who thrive on people too afraid to tell it like it is , and instead carry on listening to his emperors new clothes style bollocks, and even after this lamentable effort, you still dont think his "poetry" dogshit ?
De Rong Song
Your house is
Falling down
Around
Your
Feet,
And you got
Nought
To eat,
Don't worry
Be happy.
Your fish
Have drowned
You wear
A frown,
You search
But you don't
Own a pound,
Don't worry
Be happy.

You ain't got
Nowhere to
Play,
Just balconies
And
Motorways,
Don't worry
Be happy.

You meet
Someone
You really like,
They tell you to
Get on your bike,
Don't worry
Be happy.

You're on your bike
And all is fine,
You get caught
In a washing line,
Don't worry
Be happy.
You go to school
The school is
Gone,
The Government
Put pressure on,
Don't worry
Be happy.
Your tea is
Dry
Your ice is
Hot,
Your head is
Tied up in a
Not,
Don't worry
Be happy.
You worry
Because
You're hurrying,
And hurry
Because
You're worrying,
Don't happy
Be worried.

 

[ditchy]

Yeah , a convicted burglar who writes seriously shit poetry who's got such a chip on his shoulder about this country he turned down the OBE that a patronising white establishment offered him, seriously , why do we "need" to hear from him more ? , he is a second generation immigrant who hates the way this country is and is so proud of his caribbean roots , yet still lives here , the reason people like you "need to hear from him more" is to make yourself feel good about how cool and down with multiculturalism you are, I bet he cannot believe his f***ing luck how people like you fawn over him and how the absolute dogshit he passes off as poetry is taken seriously .

This , but perhaps not so harshly put

 

[Brovion]

Meh, I always preferred Linton Kwesi Johnson. Bass Culture, what an album!