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[Music] Punk/New Wave BBC4 tonight







Bodian

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May 3, 2012
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Cumbria
My genre of music. Much as I like punk (The Clash, The Stranglers and Crass especially), it was really what came afterwards, in its wake, that I really loved - and still do.

Bands & singers like: Killing Joke, Psychedelic Furs, Wire, Gang of Four, Klaus Nomi, PIL, Bauhaus, The Slits, The Birthday Party (Nick Cave), Echo & The Bunnymen, Sotf Cell, The Mekons, Siouxsie & The Banshees, The Cure, Devo, Cocteau Twins, Marc Almond, The Only Ones, The Monochrome Set, The Au Pairs, The Chameleons, Joy Division - and then towards the mid-1980s, The Smiths, Half Man Half Biscuit, Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds and The Wedding Present, and a bit of Goth like Sisters of Mercy, The Mission and Xmal Deutchland.

When I first met Mrs Peteinblack, I knew she was 'the one' because she liked all of these bands too, whereas most of our friends and acquaintances had never heard of them and thought that we were 'weird'!

Not only do we still play these bands regularly, but of those which are still alive and touring, we still go to their gigs - have seen Killing Joke, and Wire (and bought all their recent albums - both bands have actually got better with age), 6 times each in the last 10 years, and last autumn, saw the Psychedelic Furs at The Roundhouse in Camden - one of the best gigs ever.

And our last gig, before the first lockdown, was Half Man Half Biscuit, in Bristol -- again, they were absolutely brilliant live, and are now playing bigger venues than they've ever played before in their career.

Half Man Half Biscuit, Barn Theatre, Southwick (Glastonwick) - courtesy of Attila (whose introduction was something along the lines of "kin' 'ell, rock & roll in Southwick'). Shocked a few of the theatre crowd!

Super line up by the way.
 


BN9 BHA

DOCKERS
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Jul 14, 2013
22,684
Newhaven
My mum wouldn't let me go to Madness at the BC in 81 with my older step brother . . . . I was F-ing livid . . . . I can see why though now . . . apparently it was a bit feisty. :rolleyes:

My mum wouldn’t let me go and see Madness when I had just turned 14, she gave me some money for a haircut and I came home with a number 1 crew cut :)

I did go to see Madness in 81 at the BC, a big group of skinheads including one that looked like Buster Bloodvessel kicked the crap out of anyone that was nearby.
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
69,289
Withdean area
My genre of music. Much as I like punk (The Clash, The Stranglers and Crass especially), it was really what came afterwards, in its wake, that I really loved - and still do.

Bands & singers like: Killing Joke, Psychedelic Furs, Wire, Gang of Four, Klaus Nomi, PIL, Bauhaus, The Slits, The Birthday Party (Nick Cave), Echo & The Bunnymen, Sotf Cell, The Mekons, Siouxsie & The Banshees, The Cure, Devo, Cocteau Twins, Marc Almond, The Only Ones, The Monochrome Set, The Au Pairs, The Chameleons, Joy Division - and then towards the mid-1980s, The Smiths, Half Man Half Biscuit, Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds and The Wedding Present, and a bit of Goth like Sisters of Mercy, The Mission and Xmal Deutchland.

When I first met Mrs Peteinblack, I knew she was 'the one' because she liked all of these bands too, whereas most of our friends and acquaintances had never heard of them and thought that we were 'weird'!

Not only do we still play these bands regularly, but of those which are still alive and touring, we still go to their gigs - have seen Killing Joke, and Wire (and bought all their recent albums - both bands have actually got better with age), 6 times each in the last 10 years, and last autumn, saw the Psychedelic Furs at The Roundhouse in Camden - one of the best gigs ever.

And our last gig, before the first lockdown, was Half Man Half Biscuit, in Bristol -- again, they were absolutely brilliant live, and are now playing bigger venues than they've ever played before in their career.

The same for me. The kids in the older years than me at secondary school were the punks.

I adore many tracks by the Stranglers, and then a few each from The Clash and the Pistols.

But New Wave, post punk and most things synth are my music Shangri-La, from about 1979 onwards and lasting through the 80’s.

Love your tastes, but I’d add New Order and a whole load of electronic bands.
 


Peteinblack

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Love your tastes, but I’d add New Order and a whole load of electronic bands.

Oh, I Ioved New Order (Power Corruption and Lies, Low Life, and Technique especially) and Pete Hook has always been my fave bass player along with Jean-Jacques Burnel. Hookie was great live - bass down by his knees, legs astride and his body bent forward almost 90 degrees to play the high notes!

I do like electronic stuff - Gary Numan, Soft Cell, and Blancmange especially (and from the 70s, Sparks remain one of my favourite bands of all time) - have seen Blancmange on their last 3 tours; another band who I think are just as good now as they were in their '80s prime.
 




Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Oh, I Ioved New Order (Power Corruption and Lies, Low Life, and Technique especially) and Pete Hook has always been my fave bass player along with Jean-Jacques Burnel. Hookie was great live - bass down by his knees, legs astride and his body bent forward almost 90 degrees to play the high notes!

I do like electronic stuff - Gary Numan, Soft Cell, and Blancmange especially (and from the 70s, Sparks remain one of my favourite bands of all time) - have seen Blancmange on their last 3 tours; another band who I think are just as good now as they were in their '80s prime.

Technique is brilliant. Distracted in my life at that time, it kind of passed me by, but I’ve caught up with it now.

I saw New Order in the mid-80’s a few times, then Peter Hook and The Light at Concorde 2 ... brilliant bass play and yes he was still doing the unique front on splits.

Sparks were and still are amazing, I post about them from time to time on NSC. Number One Song in Heaven is in my top 8 tracks ever, ahead of its time, referenced by all the later synth band greats. Now into their 70’s, the Mael brothers bely their age, as great as ever.
 


Peteinblack

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Jun 3, 2004
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Technique is brilliant. Distracted in my life at that time, it kind of passed me by, but I’ve caught up with it now.

I saw New Order in the mid-80’s a few times, then Peter Hook and The Light at Concorde 2 ... brilliant bass play and yes he was still doing the unique front on splits.

Sparks were and still are amazing, I post about them from time to time on NSC. Number One Song in Heaven is in my top 8 tracks ever, ahead of its time, referenced by all the later synth band greats. Now into their 70’s, the Mael brothers bely their age, as great as ever.

Their previous album, Hippopotamus, is one of my all time favourite albums - easily as good as Kimono My House and Propaganda - literally not a duff track on it: 'Missionary Position' in particular is superb, musically and lyrically.
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Withdean area
Their previous album, Hippopotamus, is one of my all time favourite albums - easily as good as Kimono My House and Propaganda - literally not a duff track on it: 'Missionary Position' in particular is superb, musically and lyrically.

Russell Mael’s unique vocals are stunning, so talented, got to love him.
 




jakarta

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May 25, 2007
15,738
Sullington
Oh Dear,

Annie Nightingale reinventing herself as a champion of Punk, not at what all I remember from the 1970's and 80's.

Hey ho much of the music is still great...
 


Superphil

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Jul 7, 2003
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In a pile of football shirts
So far so good, I’m on catch up, Iggy on now \o/
 


AmexRuislip

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Feb 2, 2014
34,768
Ruislip
Ooh it’s a corner;9581109 said:
Not sure if new progs but possibly are. Tonight from 9 and repeated later - for those of us of a certain age and memory. Hopefully to celebrate earlier victories but if not to help drown sorrows.

Annie Nightingale
 
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Wozza

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Jul 6, 2003
24,373
Minteh Wonderland
After that...

Sky Arts, 10-11.15pm

Music Through the Lens
Season 1 Episode 1/6 - On Camera

The history and cultural impact of music photography, featuring interviews with renowned exponents as well as musicians, journalists and social commentators

Looks awesome.

Well I'm v much enjoying this....
 


RossyG

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Dec 20, 2014
2,630
I thought the programme was dire. Totally superficial; just random clips and boring trivia spoken over the music.

Gary Numan’s fans were dubbed Numanoids, you say? Well, fancy that! And Two Tone music is still relevant now? Such insights!
 


BN9 BHA

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Jul 14, 2013
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Newhaven
I watched some of it, I saw Blondie, Japan, The Beat and The Slits.
Enjoyed the video filmed in Brighton by the Marine Girls, a young Tracey Thorn was in this band, can’t say I remember them though.

Also saw some acts that I wouldn’t call punk or new wave, King Crimson and then Robert Wyatt, not my thing TBH.
 




zefarelly

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Jul 7, 2003
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Sussex, by the sea
It was pretty good I thought, especially given how crap TV usually is, and a nice easy end to the day after Watching a frustrating kickabout on a toally legitimate web site I stumbled upon. There were a few things I'd not seen before and some 'comfort blanket' gems
 




Southern Scouse

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Jul 21, 2011
2,095
After a crappy game I needed this to brighten up my evening, and many thanks for the Newave play list... great job!
 


Arkwright

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Oct 26, 2010
2,831
Caterham, Surrey
I haven't watched it yet, did Johnny Moped get a mention? Allegedly he was the first UK punk rocker.

I went to school with a couple of the current Mopeds line up and they always claim Captain Sensible was in Johnny's band. Shame from what I can gather he never really made much money due to poor management.

He lived round the corner from me and I see him daily shuffling up and down the road, lovely chap, when sober.....Lockdown has certainly affected him with no gigs and no income.
 




Insel affe

HellBilly
Feb 23, 2009
24,337
Brighton factually.....
I haven't watched it yet, did Johnny Moped get a mention? Allegedly he was the first UK punk rocker.

I went to school with a couple of the current Mopeds line up and they always claim Captain Sensible was in Johnny's band. Shame from what I can gather he never really made much money due to poor management.

He lived round the corner from me and I see him daily shuffling up and down the road, lovely chap, when sober.....Lockdown has certainly affected him with no gigs and no income.

This was an excellent night a few years ago....punk:
 

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loz

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Apr 27, 2009
2,483
W.Sussex
I haven't watched it yet, did Johnny Moped get a mention? Allegedly he was the first UK punk rocker.

I went to school with a couple of the current Mopeds line up and they always claim Captain Sensible was in Johnny's band. Shame from what I can gather he never really made much money due to poor management.

He lived round the corner from me and I see him daily shuffling up and down the road, lovely chap, when sober.....Lockdown has certainly affected him with no gigs and no income.

Same as ,we might know each other?, I played football for Tatsfield rovers with slimy toad ( Simon Fitzgerald ) and Dave Burke would watch on the sidelines.

Johnny seemed to be a bit less confused after the death of his wife Brenda and had his teeth done and have cracked off a few singles and two albums so I am sad to hear he may be regressing 😟
 


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