[Misc] Public Image Ltd vying for Eurovision

[Brian Potter]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-64210427

And here is the song in question

 

[Mellotron]

Trying to think of another celebrity who has changed more (both in themselves and public perception thereof) over 40-50 years than Lydon.

Morrissey?

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

Fantastic, sheer pantomime. This is not a love song.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

Trying to think of another celebrity who has changed more (both in themselves and public perception thereof) over 40-50 years than Lydon.

Morrissey?

Sinead O’Connor? Cat Stevens? (Not great examples). Weller?

 

[KZNSeagull]

Trying to think of another celebrity who has changed more (both in themselves and public perception thereof) over 40-50 years than Lydon.

Morrissey?

He was thinking about doing Eurovision a few years ago too.

 

[KZNSeagull]

That's not a very Eurovision song, would be surprised if it gets chosen

 

[GT49er]

That's not a very Eurovision song, would be surprised if it gets chosen

It's not very good either - which is usually quite a good qualification for a Eurovision entry, but this dirge is so dreary and boring I can see even the weirdest judges yawning, scratching their heads and jotting down 'nil points' before the first minute!

 

[OzMike]

It's not very good either.

He he, that made me chuckle, like any of them are any good.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Fantastic, sheer pantomime. This is not a love song.

Truly wondrous bolleaux right there

 

[Guinness Boy]

Eurovision? Thought Johnny was a Rotten Brexiteer these days.

 

[Peteinblack]

Trying to think of another celebrity who has changed more (both in themselves and public perception thereof) over 40-50 years than Lydon.

Morrissey?

Yeah, two previous 'outsiders' or anti-Establishment figures who were often brilliantly witty and entertaining, but who have become increasingly obnoxious and offensive, and will say anything to court controversy and remind us of their existence: Lydon endorsing Donald Trump as some kind of champion of the American working-class, and Morrissey now a supporter of Far Right groups like Britain First, and who has confessed his admiration for Nigel Farage.

I still love Morrissey's and PIL's music, but as people, I now find Morrissey and Lydon utterly repugnant and boorish, and bloated with an exaggerated sense of their own importance.

 

[schmunk]

What a load of old tosh. Lydon should f*** off back to the butter mines, where he belongs.

 

[jcdenton08]

It’s not very good song

 

[Peteinblack]

What a load of old tosh. Lydon should f*** off back to the butter mines, where he belongs.

Blimey, I thought that was Johnny Vegas for a minute!

 

[The Fits]

It's such a sad song. Way to sad for Eurovision surely?

 

[peterward]

Trying to think of another celebrity who has changed more (both in themselves and public perception thereof) over 40-50 years than Lydon.

Morrissey?

For all the wrong reasons.

Gary Glitter.

 

[Mellotron]

For all the wrong reasons.

Gary Glitter.

Was he seen as a great guy back in the day?!

 

[US Seagull]

Trying to think of another celebrity who has changed more (both in themselves and public perception thereof) over 40-50 years than Lydon.

Morrissey?

I kinda feel like both of them don't really have an actual position that they consistently stand by, they are just anti whatever the current cultural zeitgeist is. I feel like the Lydon and Morrissey of the late 70's / early 80's would 100% be against their modern day incarnations. They were Antifa before it was cool. And now that it's cool they've become fascists (a little hyperbolic, I admit) instead.

They exist just to be contrarians.

 

[Mellotron]

I kinda feel like both of them don't really have an actual position that they consistently stand by, they are just anti whatever the current cultural zeitgeist is. I feel like the Lydon and Morrissey of the late 70's / early 80's would 100% be against their modern day incarnations. They were Antifa before it was cool. And now that it's cool they've become fascists (a little hyperbolic, I admit) instead.

They exist just to be contrarians.

Yeah I get what you're saying. Whatever the majority agree with, they naturally feel uneasy with. But 70s Lydon would HATE 2023 Lydon with a flaming passion.

 

[banjo]

Blimey, I thought that was Johnny Vegas for a minute!