LamieRobertson
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Agreed but it’s not the sort of thing the crowd on this thread want to hear ..it’s all the far rights fault
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[Politics] Protests/rioting in lots of places
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Agreed but it’s not the sort of thing the crowd on this thread want to hear ..it’s all the far rights fault
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
I think I’ve already said what I think..I say think as apparently I’m a knuckledragger who can’t think
I’ll leave u all to kiss one another’s arses …I’m back to work ..ta ta
Well, no you haven't. Neither of these replies states what you think the London protest was protesting about.
Assuming these were ordinary people and not part of a whipped up hate mob it must be a fairly big problem that is opposed by the majority of society. Yet I have no idea what their actual point was. And, apparently, neither do you.
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It’s because many of them have been spinning many of the threads which are now being used by the far right to justify their antics, and to admit that the thugs are far right means they have to admit their part in it and lose the credibility they rely on to claim respectability for their obnoxious views.
cheshunt seagull
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People could just read the Labour Manifesto which sets out a knife crime action plan as well as plans to increase neighbourhood policing. So it clearly is a states priority. It's up to you if you believe they will do anything but as they have only been in government for 4 weeks I am giving them the benefit of the doubt.
You seem to be confusing 'far right' with criminality. Someone does not become far right by attacking mosques. Nether do they cease to be far right by not attacking mosques. It is inherent in what they bring to the table. Any table.
The people who rocked up to Southport to cause a riot are self-defined as far right. It isn't a lazy term. If they deny it, they are liars.
I suspect you simply feel uncomfortable being associated with the concept of far right because you 'share' some of what you see as the 'legitimate concerns' of the rioting knob heads.
I would recommend a bit of reflection and contemplation. What legitimate concern might you have that would propel you to another town to attack police and a Mosque? What would you be trying to achieve and what would you see as a successful outcome? How might you go about pursuing your legitimate objectives without resorting to violence and intimidation?
Hint: howling at the moon is not an achievement, and being arrested is not a measure of success.
I hope the dog didn't catch anything nasty.
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Knife crime is not a government problem (excepting creating laws such as has already been created regarding the carrying of knives). It is a social problem. Unfortunately over a period of many years we have seen an absolving of society of its responsibilities to government levels.
Legislation that criminalises the carrying of knives is in place. Prison sentences can also be an outcome. If the law is not a deterrent then we have a social problem. The question is thus: What are we as a society doing about knife culture ?
And all those coked up nob heads trashing places in “protest” will be behind so much of the trouble with knives. All those kids involved with county lines and neighbourhood drugs are involved because of adults buying the drugs and creating a market. The kids are battling over the income from those who claim to hate the knife crime.
That includes middle class banker types and whoever who take cocaine etc. it is a grim trade that is behind so much youth crime and issues in society.
That includes middle class banker types and whoever who take cocaine etc. it is a grim trade that is behind so much youth crime and issues in society.
Hotchilidog
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Always interesting how drug users do not see themselves as part of the problem.
Maybe we should all be signing up to proper British values like members of the army who are tolerated. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c84jzex9vk8o.amp
Sexism and racism. Proper British innit.
Sexism and racism. Proper British innit.
Good point
Knife Crime I believe.
As an ex serviceman I appalled at that story, thankfully during my time In the Royal Navy, a period when female sailors known as WRENs in those days were going to sea for the first and serving alongside colleagues from across the Commonwealth I never witnessed or heard of such abuse.
The only regrettable part of that era was that gay sailors couldn’t be themselves through fear of losing their careers, the SIB would regularly go undercover following personal to see if they were going to Pompey gay bars and then arresting them.
You believe? Isn't everyone who doesn't roam the streets with a knife against knife crime? And where were the crossbow crime protests when that poor racing commentator's family were killed?
Here's a non-definitive, incomplete but, nevertheless, indicative list of things I'm against:
Murder
Knife Crime
Arson
Pineapple on pizza
Kiddie fiddling
Running people over with your car whist drunk
Crystal Palace
Rape
Torture
Dogs in costumes
Nigel Farage
Would it not be reasonable to assume that the bolded ones are ones everyone is against unless they actually indulge in it?
Incidentally, here are the Southport protest posters. They don’t mention knife crime. Have you got London ones that do?
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My old man served in the Royal Navy but it was a long time ago. He was on boats on 1970s and 80s. He was (and still is) pretty homophobic and made several comments over the years that I call out as racism. He was a submariner and very few non white people were ever in the subs and women were still a good 20 years from being allowed on subs.
My aunty was an army officer but left before it came out she was gay. By old man used to laugh that the sub Torbay was known as Torgay. Hilarious.
His term of choice for gays was “brown hatters”. As I said this was a time when racism and homophobia was even more rife in society but things were pretty grim for anyone not conforming. Proper Britain.
Wrong-Direction
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I know what you're getting at Lamie, calling every single person on that march far right is simply moronic, many of them have legitimate concerns but get dragged down by all the violent fukwits.
I'm not proud to be English at all, I'd never wear an England shirt or wave a flag because it's associated with absolute scumbags nowadays.
I despise those that rule us. I despise scroungers. I despise the upper class. I despise alot of the middle class. I despise Tommy Robinson and his followers. I despise people that can't decide what gender they are today.
What is there to be proud of?
Frankly I wouldn't be seen dead at a protest unless it had something to do with plumbing..
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Mellor 3 Ward 4
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You asked what the protest was about and I told you based on what I had read on various sites, just that !!. If you want me to dig it up for you, i can do it.
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
You seem to be confusing me with someone who supports attacking a mosque …you seem to be confusing me with someone who supported that demonstration at Southport ..the attacking of police ..the destruction and criminality with someone who questioned the automatic labelling (by people on here and MSM ) of people who attended the Downing Street protest as far right knuckle draggers…the labelling of anyone who voted Reform as not having the ability to think (quite a few million then) ….so I won’t be pausing for reflection I’ve no need in fact it’s quite patronising if with the best possible motives
I don’t expect many if anyone to agree ..but felt a forthright reply was necessary particularly as an assumption has been made re Southport
Ps GB Try rereading my post that u referred to it originated from a comment about the ‘far right’ ..labelling etc and had nothing to do with motives of attending Downing Street …if I felt your question was sincere I might have offered an opinion