[Politics] Protests/rioting in lots of places

[Is it PotG?]

Here’s the runners and riders for the thread about that c u n t Farrage

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Evidently oblivious to the old adage that quality is better than quantity.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Here’s the runners and riders for the thread about that c u n t Farrage

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Contributing well informed and considered opinions to the thread topic (on the wrong thread) as always

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[Is it PotG?]

Contributing well informed and considered opinions to the thread topic posted on the wrong thread as always

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You are almost being lapped on the aforementioned thread, you need to up your game mate.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Evidently oblivious to the old adage that quality is better than quantity.

Well, you’re top 15 with nearly 60 posts on that one, so clearly not following the old adage.

You’re also the person that shares links that you have no clue what they mean.

 

[BadFish]

And when all else fails, play the man not the ball

 

[Chicken Run]

Contributing well informed and considered opinions to the thread topic (on the wrong thread) as always

You'll need to put up a new picture now

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

you have some heavily bias views on Musk and Twitter, which is not the only public space on the internet, and assume only the right benefit from his relaxed approach to free speech. or hate speech. who is to decides, you, me, Musk, some 20yo analyst in a office cubical? Musk has veered off too far for many, mostly as a direct response of others that veered too far another way. the general issues involved have been talked about for longer than Twitter existed. people want to control and stiffle public internet forums and will use instances such as current situation to drive through the legislation that effect everything, not just one company or CEO who's disliked.

Come off it. 'X' has become a cesspit due to deliberate decisions by the owner. Zeb has explained it all and the context and how it relates to wider issues of free speech and legal responsibility perfectly clearly. All the owner needs to do is delete the hate stuff and block the posters, but he actively refuses to do so. And his recent predictions of civil war in the UK speaks to his agenda. As someone else posted, he's a wrong 'un.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

You are almost being lapped on the aforementioned thread, you need to up your game mate.

If there's one thing DULLER than one or two posters completely dominating a thread with a lot of posts (often repeating the same points many times), then its someone posting a load of really boring posts about post counts.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Post Numbers on this thread impressive, it’s like the olympic medal table, I think it’s all about who’s coming second though

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I assume because you’re on here so little you missed the specific instruction not to settle personal scores on this thread. Thread ban for anyone doing so again.

 

[BadFish]

One assumes the rioters didn't conduct a vote and choose this fella to represent them on the radio.

 

[WATFORD zero]

One assumes the rioters didn't conduct a vote and choose this fella to represent them on the radio.

I think it was just pure luck that they got someone representative of the majority of rioters

 

[BadFish]

I think it was just pure luck that they got someone representative of the majority of rioters

He certainly nailed those legitimate concerns.

 

[jackanada]

Landlords being paid premium rates and terms for housing asylum seekers are bound to push up rental rates .

Hey if I was a landlord myself I would either be using the scheme or if I had tenants on a fixed term lease arrangement be replacing them when the agreement ended

It's just business , nothing personal .

Somewhat O/T but Dickens' Christmas Carol caused a great stir in Victorian times because unlike some more modern versions Scrooge is completely honest and entirely law abiding. The message was that he was going to hell because that was not enough.

 

[Baldseagull]

As I’m sure you know, the origins of what is left and right wing derives from the Citizens “Parliament” following the French Revolution, the radicals (Jacobins) sat on the left, the conservatives (merchant/bourgeois class) on the right.

The modern usage of left and right wing as a mechanism of determining political intent and motive is clumsy at best and misleading at worst, most people have political views that can be conservative (small or no change) and also radical (profound change).

Accordingly, in the original context of what is left or right wing, (and by way of example) Brexit would be left wing, and in the context of people expressing views to restrict immigration, you could argue in current terms an immediate cessation of immigration would be a radical step towards immigration policy and therefore also left wing.

It’s much better to determine intent through political ideology, international Marxism, as an ideology would support open borders for example, and that is essentially what we had with the Tories (despite their rhetoric) and I suspect the Labour Party will follow suit on more transparent ideological plane.

International Marxism sounds more scary than left wing though……….so we will no doubt stay with the simplistic stuff.

Good try, but if you are hating on people in asylum centres, whilst waving a George Cross, and saying we want our country back, it's right wing.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

I think it was just pure luck that they got someone representative of the majority of rioters

It is very, very unfair to lump all the other rioters /protesters in with this guy. They really are not ALL racist simpletons.

There are some who just love a ruck, and other who just fancied stealing some sausage rolls or a few bottles of WKD.

 

[Bry Nylon]

If there's one thing DULLER than one or two posters completely dominating a thread with a lot of posts (often repeating the same points many times), then its someone posting a load of really boring posts about post counts.

Agreed; one or two posters completely dominating a thread with a lot of posts (often repeating the same points many times) is massively dull - and is something that you would hope could addressed through just a modicum of self-moderation.

 

[Napper]

Here’s the runners and riders for the thread about that c u n t Farrage

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as per every thread then haha

 

[Titanic]

Agreed; one or two posters completely dominating a thread with a lot of posts (often repeating the same points many times) is massively dull - and is something that you would hope could addressed through just a modicum of self-moderation.

It ends up like white noise... irritating when you notice it, but most of the time, easily ignored.

 

[Zeberdi]

you have some heavily bias views on Musk and Twitter, which is not the only public space on the internet, and assume only the right benefit from his relaxed approach to free speech. or hate speech. who is to decides, you, me, Musk, some 20yo analyst in a office cubical? Musk has veered off too far for many, mostly as a direct response of others that veered too far another way. the general issues involved have been talked about for longer than Twitter existed. people want to control and stiffle public internet forums and will use instances such as current situation to drive through the legislation that effect everything, not just one company or CEO who's disliked.

I’m astonished that you are trying to present some kind of apologist argument for online hate speech.

And ‘Yes’, absolutely. I fully admit that I am heavily biased against racist and any form of extremist content being allowed to flood the internet when there are laws in multiple territories clearly delineating what the limitations are to free speech and laws and provisions on Human Rights violations that very clearly define what constitutes ‘hate speech’. I also fully admit I am biased against those who think ‘freedom of speech’ is a passport to say wtf you like regardless of the harm it causes to national security, groups or other individuals.

Not even the ‘father’ of civil rights legislation, Thomas Payne, agreed to the unconditional and unfettered rights to freedom of speech.

‘The Declaration of Rights itself stipulated that laws could limit free speech in order to combat ‘abuses of this freedom’.

Thomas Paine

warwick.ac.uk

If I am appearing to you biased against Musk, it is because it’s relevant to the thread (but my points apply to all social media platforms) - Musk has taken it upon himself in recent days to get involved in the riots by spreading personally dangerous opinions …

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/06/tech/elon-musk-civil-war-uk-riots/index.html

And fake news …

You tell me how this irresponsible bollix falls under the universally accepted guidelines of ‘free speech’?

Elon Musk shares fake news about England rioters being sent to Falklands

X owner deletes post sharing faked Telegraph article that claimed convicted rioters would be sent to detention camps

www.theguardian.com

What is also relevant to the thread and the possibility of foreign agents being behind the far rights use of social media to incite violence and social unrest is where Musk got his funding from to purchase Titter which has implications for national security:

’Not only has Musk brought on a number of investors to help finance the deal, including entities with to China, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia but one of his other companies, Tesla, is increasingly dependent on the Chinese market and the goodwill of the Chinese government’

The national security grounds for investigating Musk’s Twitter acquisition

Patnaik, Litan, and Kunhardt make the case for a national security investigation of Elon Musk's acquisition of Twitter

www.brookings.edu

 

[Bold Seagull]

I guess if you're looking for a win at least somewhere, having less posts than someone else is as good as any for some.