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Proposals for the embetterment of football in England



Wilko

LUZZING chairs about
Sep 19, 2003
9,927
BN1
I'd dump the league cup and make the all divisions play from the first round in the FA Cup. However, the first two rounds would consist of Premier v Championship and First v Second, including the second group any non league teams.

Like *thumbsup*
 




Heffle Gull

JCL since 1979
Feb 5, 2004
891
Heathfield
Bonus points for scoring 3 or more goals in a game.

The More goals you score the more points you get (Wib Lose or Draw). This will encourage attacking football even if you are losing a game.

A 4 -3 result would give the winning team 5 points (3 for the win + 2 bonus) and the losing team would get 1 bonus point.
 


NickBHAFC18

New member
Feb 24, 2012
1,720
Brighton
3. No football will be televised live except the FA cup final. If you want to see a live game buy a ticket.

4. Clubs shall have two kits, Home and Away and may only change the kit design in a leap year.

5. The playoffs will be abolished because they're a lottery. If you came sixth, you're too shit to go up (except under the "too shit to stay up rule").The bottom three clubs of each league shall be relegated. In addition any club failing to get more points than the third from bottom club will also be relegated. In the event of more than three clubs being relegated, the equivalent number of clubs form the league below will be promoted (known as the "too shit to stay up" rule).

8. England will send three teams into the Champions League: The winners of the Premier League, the winners of the Championship and the F.A. Cup winners. Entry to the Europa leage will be two Premier League teams: the team scoring the most goals and the team with the best disciplinary record.

3. Ridiculous statement, Football should be shared and not everyone can afford to go to every game.

4. Its quite nice to see a new kit every couple of years, plus it brings money into your team?

5. The playoff's are probably the most exciting part of the championship, i dont understand why you would change that, just look at Swansea and how well they've done from it.

8. The strongest teams in England would not qualify, the whole point of the champions league is for the best teams in each league to compete against each other? E.g. Oxford FC could win the F.A. Cup and they'll be playing in Europe next year against the likes of Barcelona? No thanks.
 




Superphil

Dismember
Jul 7, 2003
25,679
In a pile of football shirts
Anyone proven to dive in a match to be banned for 12 months (1st offence), if they do it again, then banned for life.

Champions ONLY go into the Champions League.
 






Dirk Gently

New member
Dec 27, 2011
273
If side A (lets call them Palace) were to let side B score (lets call them Brighton) in the 1st (or any) minute. Why should and would Brighton then let Palace score? Brighton have a 1-0 lead (and 3 points) to protect.

I think this would mean the end to Craig Levein's 4-6-0 formation.

Because they'd have agreed it beforehand ... and because they'd know that every other team they'd play in future wouldn't trust them In a lot of ways that'd be like a team going on to score a goal when restarting after the ball was put out of play for an injury.
 


Brixtaan

New member
Jul 7, 2003
5,030
Border country.East Preston.
The biggest improvement to football ( and certainly at the Amex) is standing areas ! Picture the scene if the north stand was like this!
 






Arthritic Toe

Well-known member
Nov 25, 2005
2,486
Swindon
If a player attempts to influence the referee by going to ground unnecessarily or theatrically, play will continue regardless of whether a foul has been commited.

To avoid the penalty shoot out - In extra time, every 5 minutes each team must withdraw one player from the pitch. Extra time ends when a goal is scored.
 


Dirk Gently

New member
Dec 27, 2011
273
If I can add one - referees to be fitted with microphones and what they hear from the players is broadcast, as in rugby. Your typical football match would then be unbroadcastable, and the TV companies and sponsors (the ones who hold the real power in football) would make damn sure it cleaned up it's act and respect wasn't just a meaningless word on a shirt-sticker.
 




Superphil

Dismember
Jul 7, 2003
25,679
In a pile of football shirts
If I can add one - referees to be fitted with microphones and what they hear from the players is broadcast, as in rugby. Your typical football match would then be unbroadcastable, and the TV companies and sponsors (the ones who hold the real power in football) would make damn sure it cleaned up it's act and respect wasn't just a meaningless word on a shirt-sticker.

I like that idea a lot :thumbsup:
 


simmo

Well-known member
Feb 8, 2008
2,787
Because they'd have agreed it beforehand ... and because they'd know that every other team they'd play in future wouldn't trust them In a lot of ways that'd be like a team going on to score a goal when restarting after the ball was put out of play for an injury.

Why would they agree to it before hand. Why would say Man Utd agree to having Wigan scoring one goal against them. Fergie would think we can stuff this lot 5-0, at least one manager in any game should think his team are good enough to beat another team.

Also in bold you have hit the nail on the head there and that is why the gift goals would soon stop.

Once the gift goals are not recipricated across the board by one side because it is in there interests not to do so (to get 3 points) then the false 1-1's would stop. I could easily see a Fat Sam or a Neil Warnock side not doing this for the first time, then going on to get 3 points by winning the game and then no team would.
 


Aadam

Resident Plastic
Feb 6, 2012
1,130
Not sure if you're being serious with some of these. Some good ideas, and some that will never happen. I've commented below.

1. Only the captain is allowed to speak to the referee and he must call the referee "sir". Any other player speaking to the referee will be sent off.

- Agreed. I'm sure they tried to implement this at one point, and you could see for a few games only the captain was speaking to the ref, then it was forgotten about. I don't think you can send off a player for talking to a ref, particularly if he misunderstands something, i.e., whether a free-kick is direct or not. I think you have to eliminate back-chat and arguing though.

2. All games shall be played on a Saturday at 3 PM or Tuesday/Wednesday at 7.30 PM.

- Will never happen. Too much money is paid in TV rights, not just by Sky, but around the world. Demand for games over a weekend and midweek is too much. Plus, I like knowing that on a Sunday I can often watch the F1 followed by football.

3. No football will be televised live except the FA cup final. If you want to see a live game buy a ticket.

- And English teams will fall behind European teams even more so than they are now. I like that I can watch title deciders and relegation battles without having to travel the length and depth of this country to see them.

4. Clubs shall have two kits, Home and Away and may only change the kit design in a leap year.

- Sponsors change more regularly than this.

5. The playoffs will be abolished because they're a lottery. If you came sixth, you're too shit to go up (except under the "too shit to stay up rule").The bottom three clubs of each league shall be relegated. In addition any club failing to get more points than the third from bottom club will also be relegated. In the event of more than three clubs being relegated, the equivalent number of clubs form the league below will be promoted (known as the "too shit to stay up" rule).

- I took this as a joke, so not answering.

6. If a player is sent off, all his wages will be paid to charity. In addition, half his manager's wages will also go to charity. There will be no limit to this, ie if three players get sent off, the manager should make up the difference himself.

- I'm sure there are many employment laws and human rights you're violating here. What if he was sent off in error? A red card can be subjective at times. Having a players livelihood rely on the judgement of one man is not fair. What if your pay was subject to your performance that was judged, subjectively, by someone else?

7. Every match will be recorded reviewed by a panel of three independant scrutineers and any player seen to have dived will be retrospectively banned for three matches.

- This shouldn't just apply to diving.

8. England will send three teams into the Champions League: The winners of the Premier League, the winners of the Championship and the F.A. Cup winners. Entry to the Europa leage will be two Premier League teams: the team scoring the most goals and the team with the best disciplinary record.

- You would want England represented in the Champions League by a club in a lower division (albeit they'd be in the PL for the season they'd be in the CL). The CL should be the top team from each country, unfortunately, TV has demanded more games be played by more clubs.

9. FA cup semi finals will not be played at Wembley.

- Agreed, but the FA are desperately trying to repay on the stadium costs, this wont happen.

10. In the event of a club going into administration, they shall be immediately expelled from the league and thier remaining fixtures will be played by an "invitation 11"

- This is not fair on the fans. You cannot expel a club and sack off all the players because the management messed up. I think the current system works with docking of points.

11. ITV will not be allowed to feature football of any level.

- Another joke?
 




Aadam

Resident Plastic
Feb 6, 2012
1,130
How about this one, throw ins.

The player taking the throw must stay OFF the pitch until the ball is touched by another player.

This would stop the ridiculous charade of long throws that are as good as corners and Stoke City shit-hoof ball that is ruining the beautiful game.

Take a look at Delap's throws, he's about 6 yards on the pitch by the time the aerial wrestling takes place in the middle.

Yes, some players could master the standing long throw which takes massive flexibility and strength in the waist, but it would definitely blunt this weapon.
That's like saying any player with a hard kick cannot move after taking a free kick because it's unfair. Just because he can throw a ball far, doesn't mean he should be held back.
A 0-0 and both sides get no points. Stops a side from parking the bus and if there are no goals with 15 mins or so to go before the end, both sides may as well go for it.

So Brighton go up, an away day at Old Trafford, and they fight for a draw, even miss a penalty and hit the woodwork, but all their hard work goes unpaid, they get 0 points. I don't think this is a good move. And it's not like the game is boring now. You come up against teams you expect to win, those you think you'll lose against, and some where you'd take a point, the excitement of football is getting these different types of opposition and unexpected results.

Also, I'd like to see the removal of the rule that states when a player receives treatment on the pitch he has to come off before he can come back on again. This is a joke.
 


brakespear

Doctor Worm
Feb 24, 2009
12,326
Sleeping on the roof
The penalty shoot-out should be taken BEFORE the game kicks off. It would provide some comic pre-match entertainment and the result would only be called into the scheme of things if it was needed.

And of course it provides extra incentive (should it be needed) for the time that loses the shootout. I like it :thumbsup:
 


Wickerman

New member
Aug 24, 2011
53
Horam
Simples......Just two things. 1. Allow the officials to view replays 2. Send off proven divers who are essentially CHEATS!!
 


Superphil

Dismember
Jul 7, 2003
25,679
In a pile of football shirts
I think the difficulty here is the word "proven" - the main beneficiaries from that would probably be lawyers.

In the Newcastle v Liverpool game yesterday there was a dive which required no intervtion from any solicitor, 100% cut and dried.
 




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